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STILL NO SIGN OF TIFFANY DOVER

1. YYZ says:

   December 30, 2020 - 4:18 am at 4:18 am

   Reminds me of the months in 2017 after the Clinton emails were released and the death of Seth Rich then took on NEW MEANING – an internet firestorm. Watch for it, the creepiest thing we’re likely going to see will be any press interviews with her immediate family. If there is a cover up – their contact with the media will be the smoking gun IMO. Seth Rich’s family didn’t do a very good job (nor did their DNC legal handling team) in presenting a sincerely grieving family. If she is dead, the weakest point of the cover up will be those who were closest to her – if they are involved in a lie, it will be apparent. Just like a near total media blackout regarding stories of the families of loved ones in the Vegas Shooting and their legal ‘battles’ against the casinos – does ANYONE remember that? Although I too suspect she is dead, withholding judgement until we see some (attempted) interviews with her family. TPTB only care about one thing – a successful narrative at ANY cost, everyone has a price.

2. YYZ says:

   December 30, 2020 - 5:43 am at 5:43 am

   https://deaddeath.com/tiffany-dover-death-dead-nurse-dead-after-collapsing-from-pfizers-covid-19-vaccine/

   On this site
   https://www.facebook.com/groups/777834406411388/

   Edoardo Farina shared a post of a video search – pretty sophisticated to fake that.
   https://www.facebook.com/groups/777834406411388/permalink/778134063048089/

3. Karl says:

   December 30, 2020 - 8:38 am at 8:38 am

   I don’t know.

   I still remain a bit skeptical about the skepticism. It is still possible that she could be one of those people who faints when needled (as has been asserted in the mainstream press – though it is unclear why she would have volunteered to be a show-person for vaccination). The cynic and conspiratorialist in me wonders whether a healthy Tiffany Dover lifting weights or running a marathon won’t appear soon – in planned fashion – to make vaccine skeptics look bad, after having caused them to waste time and mental energy.

   But this hypothesis could easily be wrong. I do not know and cannot know. Not enough data.

   • YYZ says:

     December 30, 2020 - 10:31 am at 10:31 am

     For a social media maven such as Tiffany, one does not simply go dark without cause.

   • Dangermouse says:

     December 30, 2020 - 11:22 am at 11:22 am

     Please watch the whole video !! There is proof ! Tiffany is dead !!

     • Karl says:

       December 30, 2020 - 12:25 pm at 12:25 pm

       I have now looked at the first of the videos. I stand with the comment that I am skeptical about everything.

       Before I explain, allow me to state I am skeptical about much about the whole COVID-19 business, which I am strongly inclined to suspect comes with an extremely nasty agenda, unprecedented. I currently believe the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines (transfucticides as I think of them) are to be avoided, even with desperation, certainly for now.

       I will note that in a response to 1st posting on the topic at this site I myself suggested on my own (without reading elsewhere) a tendency to faint with needles etc.

       I still am not convinced one way or another.

       The story stinks one way or another.

       First, the story is not 100% good for the hypothesis I and the press offered of someone who faints (vasovagal reaction, syncope) with needles. I could imagine someone wanting to show off – the personality type of someone who wants to show off goes with the type who faints as I noted in my 1st set of comments, but the person who has a history of the most extreme problems would avoid the situation. More of a problem for the hypothesis is that the person who faints from “pain” would typically faint fast, not in delayed fashion, most likely. Also, such a person does the equivalent of turning green before your eyes and often will say a bit more about feeling nasty first. It is not typical. However things that are not typical in medicine are common enough almost to be typical. Medicine is not a well controlled theoretical engineering simplified thought experiment. So I think we need to say that the hypothesis of vasovagal reaction is suspect but not disproven.

       A delayed anaphylactic reaction certainly often will occur after something like 17 minutes, but commonly the patient will complain of or exhibit some symptoms (hives, breathing difficulties) before getting into major difficulty. Again, unlikely but not 100% disproven.

       A 3d thought is that since this is a new concoction this is a new kind of reaction. I almost tend to favor this hypothesis, provided that this is a real reaction. I think that this hypothesis might be what people here are saying in different words. Something new might be happening. However I have my doubts.

       ….

       However I think there is still room for other possibilities. One is that she was acting. She was crazy and showing off. It happens. Or for some reason they (the famed PTB) are anxious to sow confusion and anxiety on top of their agenda of pushing the stuff. Whatever. I think they are crazy enough to push both ways – push the vaccine and make people scared of it for maximum demoralization (see my posting earlier on Empire of Crime, see short clip). Anyway, she maybe comes back in a video in a few weeks from now carrying a patient in each hand or something like that while balancing a spinning beach ball on her nose. Or something else just to mock the skeptics and make everyone crazier.

       Or maybe there are multiple Tiffany Dovers in the area and record keeping is bad. Or that they have faked the death of one in order to make the skeptics look bad.

       There is a lot of pushing appearances in the COVID-19 bizz. I don’t take anything one way or another as settled easily.

       Much is up in the air, and the air is bad. It is toxic.

       • Karl says:

         December 30, 2020 - 1:31 pm at 1:31 pm

         I believe that those who write books on the presumed or alleged major conspiracies of recent decades assert that false leads have been implanted or else false conspiracy theories have been raised to confuse things after more or less true ones have been put forward and so forth. In other words, I don’t think one reasonably puts too much attention on a single apparent event. The big thing is long term beneficial effects of the “vaccines” versus long term deleterious effects for more than a single person. (True, the possibility of lying by the propaganda apparatus is important, perhaps in lying about a death, but what else is new — propagandistic lying for policy is nothing new — going back to for example Polk and the Mexican war, probably millenia earlier; certainly Wilson WWI, etc etc etc. now going into overdrive with the election and the Pandemic PR etc — history is a history of distortions, now more than ever.)

         Two smaller points: I’ve seen skeptics say that the Original Nurse Dover doesn’t look like the Recovered Nurse Dover. Heck, I could say that the Tiffany Dover in the “social media” images in the 1st video look even less like either of those than those two look like each other! To me they look like a 3d person!! I could argue that someone is trying to play games by presenting Social Media Dover in the video, a 3d person (though I don’t believe it). I just don’t think the matter is worth too too much attention — at least for now. It’s probably worth only an asterisk. But I may be wrong.

         As for my comment to look at the clip from Testament of Mabuse, Empire of Crime, I don’t mean to imply that the desire to terrorize and subjugate is the only thing and that the desire to gain capital isn’t also involved. However one of the mechanisms is gaslighting — confusing populations, making them doubt, making them go at each other, making them go at themselves internally.

         • YYZ says:

           December 31, 2020 - 2:47 am at 2:47 am

           Agree Karl, all reasons to not conclude anything. Each makes up our own mind based on how deep we wish to go into finding something that is believable. They are unpleasant journeys but as one proceeds it becomes apparent after numerous ventures where certain parties interests on either side lie. The first go-around, all sides/arguments/evidence is considered, after the third or fourth – patterns develop.

           Go back to those FB links I posted now….

           “This Content Isn’t Available Right Now”
           When this happens, it’s usually because the owner only shared it with a small group of people, changed who can see it or it’s been deleted.”

           Who would have guessed?