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In view of K2’s post Lets talk about this
Personally I think more euthanasia is welcomed
How come we can assist our pets but we cannot assist our relatives
Um No…I am not advocating euthanizing your triple vaxxed kids and other relatives
even though a case can be made they are mentally ill .
But after all if we believe in personal choice I think we would be hypocrites if we denied a person the ultimate choice !
I had a close Uncle ..Uncle Ernie.
Had all his marbles at 87 but got cancer and his wife (of 65 years) had azhiemers and was in a home
So he petitioned for MAID ( Medically Assisted Induced Death )
Now there’s a drug that BETTER have 100% “efficacy” eh Tony ?
Come to think of it Thats what the vaccines seem to be for ( in slow motion )
Anyhow this thread is a place to voice you opinion on this Topic ..Probably gonna get “spirited”
Weirdest thing ever …Uncle Ernie Called me about a day or so before he had his “appointment” .
We just chatted but he didn’t say anything about the choice he had made . Just talked about his grand kids and golf .
Next thing you know his daughter calls and said he’s gone…here is the essence of that conversation
FGC>>>Now way….what happened ?…
COUSIN He requested ( a) maid..
FGC>>>>The maid killed him ?
COUSIN ( She’s a physician )….No he scheduled his assisted suicide !
FGC.>>>NO WAY…you can do that now ?
COUSIN…Yes its been available for a few years. You need to Qualify …2 Doctors have to grant the MAID
FGC>>> I’M in schock
COUSIN …You mean he didnt tell you …he said he would call some people.
FCG>>He called but not to say goodbye
Cousin….He pissed me off to the end…They fast tracked his request and he only waited 1 week from that decision
FGC>>>> Must have been SOME week ! If it were me I would rather this instant
COUSIN…and he “booked” it on a day I was working and told me to keep working.
You wait all day for the call.
WEIRD
FGC>>> whens the funeral
Cousin ..Tommorrow …limit 10 people masks
Poof…Scheduled
There may come a time when you would appreciate the opportunity to skip today and tomorrow
Last thing….My Mom passed at 91..five years ago…
For her last 5 years she was in mental decline and ANGUISH
I took her for rides and stuff and she often said…help me to go “there”
where ?
You know “there” ! I don’t want to be “here” any more.
I can’t mom…I’ll go to jail
I won’t tell anyone
I guess not I laughed 🙂
She meant it…she knew things were about to get dark.
And they did !
They had to lock her up in a place I can only describe as ONE FLEW OVER THE CUKOO’S NEST
No word of exaggeration here …what I am about to describe.
You enter thru a locked door and there you are.
A huge common area filled with people…many younger than I …And all in bad shape mentally
One guy was banging his head on the wall . A lady was throwing he food at her son.
There were screams coming from the room they were escorting me to bring her “belongings”
They told me Mom’s roomate would likely stop screaming in an hour or two
Anyhow …We visited once a week and watched her get violent and look terrified all day …no body home….but the sheer terror and anger .
NO WAY FOR MY MOM TO DIE ! She was loved….litterally…by everybody .
SO …I wish I could have helped her to go I asked…but they said no ( There was no MAID at that time)….Her Brother Ernie was able to get it done….MAID his own decision… because he had a full mind.
Pretty amazing decision
Any way
sheesh
There is only one thing that is certain in life and that is life (as we know it at least) at some point will end .
Many times I have been asked : ” what’s your greatest wish?” I have always answered : ” To die in my sleep”.
That’s my greatest wish.
Sorry Fully that your Mom went through that in the end.
FGC, my condolences on losing your uncle and I’m so sorry that your poor Mom had to live though that anguish and you had to witness it, powerless to do anything. Grossly unfair to both of you.
I would agree that it’s time we ought to be able to discuss assisted suicide in the open, without shame or hesitation. I personally do not have a problem with someone deciding they want to end it. I mean, ya if it’s a young person going thru a rough time with depression then there needs to be some means in place that they will be denied and instead put into counselling. But I believe we are talking here about end stage of life, either old age or terminal illness.
It is high time the medical profession and governments recognized a person’s right to bodily autonomy and the right to choose for themselves (ya ya the f**ing kill shots too but that’s a whole other story). A number of years ago my only sister in law was diagnosed with Hodgkin’s lymphoma. She was beautiful and vibrant and one of the sweetest people I’ve ever met. Chemo did not work. I saw how she suffered through treatment after treatment, complication after complication, all to no avail. Incessant visits to the emergency ward because of some reaction to a failed therapy. By the time she finally slipped away she was in a hospice, skin and bones, suffering delusions because of the heavy pain medications she was on. She should not have had to spend her last year like that.
Most people know themselves and what they can and cannot cope with, and no one has the right to tell them how they should feel. For example, I know there are certain age-related functional declines with which I could not cope. Period. Same if I got cancer. I could not cope with chemotherapy. Period. I wouldn’t give a rats ass if someone said “oh l know lots of people who have gone thru that and they were okay”. I know myself. I don’t want to live like that, and I think it should be my decision and no one else’s. Just as it should have been your Mom’s right to decide if that’s how she wanted to live.
That’s my two cents worth,. I support the right to choose when to end it.
Thanks GMG . We are in agreement 100% on this very important topic.
Interesting that generally This is considered a “Liberal” position.
Of course Those with Strong Religious Beliefs tend to say life is too precious…leave it in God’s hands…I can respect that but I still believe it should be an Individual Choice…
I admit I am confused on the other end though…Abortion is trickier…because you are not deciding for Your own life.
Anyhow …appreciate your perspective and sorry about your SIL
Perhaps my views on both assisted suicide and abortion are coloured by the fact that I’m a self-proclaimed atheist, and therefore I’m okay with abortion (and obviously assisted suicide as well).Before anyone comes down on me for saying that, bear in mind it’s just my opinion and everyone has the right to an opinion and I’m not afraid to say things on this forum because I’ve seen how we all respect one another even though our views may differ.
I believe every child should be loved and wanted, and have seen the lifelong damage to the child (and sometimes the parent too) if one is not prepared to make that a priority. Parenting is the hardest job in the world, and it’s not a decision to be taken lightly or under duress.
Assisted death is a kindness for those who need it and want it.
My mother also died of Alzheimer’s.
I was living several provinces west of her so managed to visit only infrequently.
The last time I saw her was on a day we arranged to take her on an outing for coffee.
When we arrived at the care home my mother was dressed, sitting purse in hand on the edge of her bed waiting for her son.
“Is that him?” she asked my sister.
“Yes,” was the reply. But she didn’t know me, and didn’t speak more because the memories were all gone.