This Is Important
Across on my Twitter account I’ve been accused of misleading people by saying that the COT numbers are nothing to be scared of. I’m putting a detailed response on here, and I’ll direct them to read it. Somehow I’ve managed to get over 3500 followers in a few months, so I hope it increases awareness of our community here. The limited number of characters on Twitter makes it hard to respond in full. The chart I’ve posted here should make my point pretty well. It boils down to the simple fact (at least, I think it’s simple), that all the chart indicators need to be viewed differently, depending on whether you have a market trending up, down or sideways. The same applies to COT numbers.
I like to keep things simple, it hurts my brain less. For the purposes of this article, forget what you call the lines at the bottom of the gold chart (STOCH, large spec, commercial, whatever), it really doesn’t matter. It’s green lines, blue lines and red lines. Right then. In a bull market, the green line going down from a high reading is NOT a problem. You just get a bullish consolidation followed by new highs. In a bear market, it is a problem – of course it is – it’s a bear market after all (the clue is in the name). I’m being flippant, sorry. Anyway, back to the chart – the blue/red lines at the very bottom – if they are above 50 and dipping down from high values, it’s not a problem. If price has crossed below the moving average (red circle) and we are below 50, it is a problem.
So what am I trying to say ? Well if you’re trying to trade in and out of this market on daily/weekly timescales, then go for it – use the elevated indicators and COT numbers to keep calling for a big drop in price, but just remember that in a bull market, price may rise $200 in the meantime, then only drop $100 whilst the indicators and COT numbers ‘reset’. That’s how a bull market works. If it didn’t do that it wouldn’t be a bull market.
I don’t want to mislead anyone, so I apologise if somehow I have. My tactic (for what it’s worth) is to hold on for dear life and keep an eye on the 2023/24 cyclical low, expecting to see some signs that a consolidation turns into something deeper which violates the supporting averages at the time. I plan to exit ALL my PM miner positions at that point and get in at lower valuations when the 2023/24 low is in (safely in the knowledge) that the biggest part of the bull run into a peak in the late 2020’s ahead of the next major 16 year cycle low in 2032. That’s the plan anyway. I would advise everyone to take advice from multiple sources and read articles and posts from people who have completely the opposite view to yourself – it can be very enlightening. Open minds and lots of collective team work is what this site excels at. Less of the confrontation, plenty of friendly ‘banter’. The world just got a lot more screwed up in the last few days, and the coming years look, well, I’m not sure what the word is…crazy/tumultuous/dangerous/turbulent/challenging/volatile/just plain shit. The charts are starting to point to something not very nice. Global all-time highs in gold are coming at a price. I think we need to be careful what we wish for here. Wishing all here the very best for the future.
Northstar … I enjoy reading your work and am one to support you on Twitter. You are not misleading anyone. The only people you are supposedly misleading are those that have the wrong frame of reference. We are indeed in a bull market. There has been virtually no pullbacks since $1350+ has been eclipsed. Bull markets can make it hard to get on the bull … this one may continue to make it hard to get on until at a later time. We should know more soon, but as Plunger repeatedly states … “sit tight and be right” otherwise one will lose his position.
I appreciate how you look at things with an open mind objectively. Something David Brady (a thug in my mind) clearly struggles with! His parents must have abused him growing up or something because he enjoys trying to abuse others in Twitter. Not sure how he’s connected with Sprott with the way he treats people. Hopefully he doesn’t have the same remarks in person. Nevertheless, keep your ideas coming … I appreciate every one of them.
Thanks Afasilver. I’m no way saying I’m always right, I just like to try and explain my reasoning fully. People can then make their own mind up.
Old school. If someone says your doing something. It’s possible the accuser
Is up to no good and is projecting their own hidden agenda
Projection makes perception………:-)
Indeed 😉
Always possible Mserr.
“To thine own self be true”…keep it simple… shut out the NOISE and maintain your objectivity…thanks for your insights and keen charting.
Very welcome Sir.
This is a 100% one of the most important posts you have made Northstar.
Twitter Scmitter.
You cut your teeth here at the tent .
We have watch you hone your skills here at the tent
You have embraced Chartology and Cycles and taken your own meteorology experience and come up with a unique skill set.
You are Our Eye in the Sky 🙂
You have addressed 2 of my pet peeves here.
1….Indicators. Indicators are derivitives of the price action …NoT vica versa.
They can be useful in a chopping market ….during consolidations and or topping and bottoming periods….as the energy wanes and the markets reverse…but in an impulse move they are next to useless.
They can embed at high levels as the Bull proceeds or they can slowly decline during consolidations and “reset”
Kudos for explaining this so simply.
2…COTs….everybody seems to think that when Commercials are hugely net short that they will WIN ! They always WIN and specs always loose….This is Pure BS. Again in a consolidation or bear market…when Specs get too long ( and conversely commercials get large short positions….this can be a warning. But in a BULL…Commercials are way net short BECAUSE there is a great Interest ( Open Interest) from Specs.
Futures is a zero sum game…for every long there has to be a short.
When Specs buy en mass…Commercials have to sell en mass.
Thats why they are commercials…they are the equivalent of market makers .
Some commercials are of course Gold miners selling their gold in the futures market to hedge…but by and large the Bullion banks sell to the eager Specs. They have to go very net short…they are not betting against gold…just providing the contracts to the voracious appetite from Specs.
The commercials will hedge their shorts in other markets or with Calls etc.
So anyhow COTs are basically showing how much interest there is in a particular market.
COTs are the worst suckers tool to use in playing a bull market IMHO.
And the worst part is they come out 3 days late….like what indicator IS 3 DAYS LATE IN THIS INSTANT MARKET INFO AGE.
USELESS !
Rant over .
Nicely explained Fully. I really hope everyone here understands this and can avoid being scared out of their positions unnecessarily.
Maybe some fear, but lots of confidence in our team to keep from jumping off the cliff!
“Global all-time highs in gold are coming at a price. I think we need to be careful what we wish for here.”
Amen to that point.
To Fully: “Indicators. ……but in an impulse move they are next to useless.”
Then you are using the wrong ones, in the wrong combination, or in the wrong way, and most likely in the wrong time frame(s). And they can usually tell you FAR MORE than what you can discern from price taken alone. But you’ve already made your mind up on this, so this is simply a VEHEMENT DISSENT on my part.
I personally have trouble making much use with indicators in an impulse move. If you are still following these comments, which indicators would you be using here, and how?
You give a hint in writing about time frames. I myself would probably look at a couple in several different time frames to see how the magnitude of change compares with other moves in the past, but I have no set way of using that information.
What would you do here?
Hi Karl. Indicators are much less useful in a powerful bull market. I’ll be using straightforward support and resistance lines, moving averages and measures of my own to gauge pullback. I’ll post more on this very soon.
All the best to you Northstar. Thanks again!
Hey NS, love the interpretation of the chart. I remember I used to have the bookmark of where to get that chart from, but for the life of me, I can’t seem to find it anywhere. Would you be able to possibly post the source of that chart so I can add it to my bookmarks again. Thanks for such great work on all the charts you post. Very much appreciated.