Finally, I saved the biggest and best story for last. This weekend on CNBC’s show Delivering Alpha (‘alpha’ in this context means ‘excess returns over baseline’), the financial network held a long-form interview with Bill Ackman, philanthropist and ‘activist’ billionaire CEO of hedge fund giant Pershing Capital.
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CLIP: Bill Ackman reverses course on vaccines on CNBC (5:50).
Before I start transcribing the best parts, there are two things to know. First, CNBC is a financially conservative network and doesn’t normally take political risks in its programming. To say the least, it is an unlikely spot for a substantive discussion of the merits of vaccines. Second, Ackman was an early and enthusiastic covid vaccine advocate. But not anymore.
Here are the key parts. You’re going to love it. The interviewer began by remarking on the unlikely fact that Ackman was supporting RFK, Jr., a known anti-vaccine nut job:
INTERVIEWER: How could somebody who was so emotional about covid — you came on my program, we all remember that — as committed as you were to the vaccines, to getting as many people vaccinated as possible, given (RFK’s) stance on vaccines in general, some might wonder how you can be supportive (of his campaign)?
ACKMAN: So actually I think Kennedy raises a LOT of important questions that need to be asked and answered about vaccines. And uh, that’s something we are doing a deep dive on. Just today, I was on the phone with a scientist, and we want to put together … (trails off). What I, what I think needs to be done, is a very detailed, deep dive into all of the research on vaccines, on vaccine safety, uh, and then … Among the things we have not done a lot of work on, is the cumulative impact on a child, for example.
When I was a child, I got THREE shots. I have a four year old; he’s scheduled to get SEVENTY-THREE shots. You know… And it may not be the, you know, the virus, if you will, designed to make you immune to the disease, the dead virus, or the mRNA technology. It may be, you know, aluminum, or preservatives they use in the vaccines, which create risks and challenges.
By the way, as the parent of a four-year-old, where the four-year-old has no ability to consent to something you’re injecting into them; I feel a moral and other paternal obligation to get to the bottom of this issue. I think, Mike, I just spoke to a scientist today, a top scientist at UCSF, who said to me, you know, Kennedy is right on 75-80% of what he says about vaccines.
The unfortunate thing is the 20-25% where unfortunately there’s just not enough data to support the stuff he says convincingly. And uh, I think it’s time for us … this whole vaccine thing became a political issue. Where if you got a shot and wore a mask you were in one party. If you refused to get a shot and didn’t wear a mask you were in another political party. (But) it’s just not a political issue.
There is real reason to … look. We have a generation of kids who have a lot more asthma, a lot more excema, a lot more autism. And we don’t yet understand the reason for that. Is it some adjuvant in the vaccine? Is it something about vaccines? Is it some other toxin in the environment? I think we have an obligation — as parents — to figure this out.
INTERVIEWER: Is that where this newfound curiosity came from? From you becoming a parent?
ACKMAN: No, from actually listening to what Kennedy had to say, as opposed to… look. The biggest, I would say interesting… I give a lot of credit to Elon, and Twitter or X (or whatever you want to call it). This, you know, talking to a scientist again today, who is a brilliant epidemiologist (among other areas). And he was one of the scientists-slash-doctors that raised early questions about the covid vaccine.
And he was demoted on Twitter. One of the papers he put up on a preprint site was taken down as ‘misinformation.’ And, you know, you look at this guy Jay Bhattacharya at Stanford, his recommendations for how we should have managed covid turned out to be pretty much spot-on accurate. But he was basically just taken off Twitter as misinformation.
And now Twitter has become a place where people can express their views. I’m a huge free-speech advocate. I use Twitter — one of the most profitable investments I ever made, I made because of what I learned on Twitter.
Listen to the whole thing and appreciate how far we have come. Allow me to number just a few of the massively-winning points demonstrated by this short, five-minute clip:
CNBC aired an “anti-vaccine” segment — without labeling or undermining it.
Ackman is a respected member of the financial community.
He fundamentally and publicly changed positions on the covid vaccines.
He is now publicly skeptical of all vaccines, not just mRNA jabs.
He is listening to RFK and Elon Musk.
He is putting his own money into it, both in supporting RFK (getting the word out) and funding scientific research against vaccines.
Ackman labeled the issue a moral imperative.
Only one thing can beat the self-interested lure of money: parental love. What the Ackman clip showed most is how the vaccine issue has now transcended even self-interest, which is the spell the vaccine industry has used to hold things together since the 1980’s when this vaccine madness originally began. Now, a lot of people — including smart, successful, well-connected people — are starting to take a very hard look at jabs in general.
The vaccine lie will unravel faster than you ever thought possible. Watch and see.
It has to be noted …WE here at the tent have to feel pretty damn good about having percieved the BULLSHIT that was The Covid Experience very early On. …LOOOOOONG Befor Bill Ackman ,Elon Musk and all the rest of the geniuses who are just NOW starting to question it all.
Congrats to US….Have a Good LONG Gloat Goldtent !!
Gloating is good. Especially when I didn’t get any jabs at all. Not one. Never even considered it. Dead on arrival. Never wore a stinking mask, either.
Being rich is never having to say you’re sorry, I suppose. Ackman should first apologize to any fool who listened to his uneducated opinion in the first place. Then he might decry the media for giving certain people the media megaphone to spout off on political issues of the day merely because they are rich and egotistical – and yes vaccine policy is a political issue, so he’s naive about that too. He can spend his money as he sees fit, but it can’t buy him good judgment, or modesty or a better brain. He was duped in the same way all the other fools were duped. Yet here he is playing the role of wise man once again. Ackman should give money to Kennedy, and shut the fuck up.
Finally, I saved the biggest and best story for last. This weekend on CNBC’s show Delivering Alpha (‘alpha’ in this context means ‘excess returns over baseline’), the financial network held a long-form interview with Bill Ackman, philanthropist and ‘activist’ billionaire CEO of hedge fund giant Pershing Capital.
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CLIP: Bill Ackman reverses course on vaccines on CNBC (5:50).
Before I start transcribing the best parts, there are two things to know. First, CNBC is a financially conservative network and doesn’t normally take political risks in its programming. To say the least, it is an unlikely spot for a substantive discussion of the merits of vaccines. Second, Ackman was an early and enthusiastic covid vaccine advocate. But not anymore.
Here are the key parts. You’re going to love it. The interviewer began by remarking on the unlikely fact that Ackman was supporting RFK, Jr., a known anti-vaccine nut job:
INTERVIEWER: How could somebody who was so emotional about covid — you came on my program, we all remember that — as committed as you were to the vaccines, to getting as many people vaccinated as possible, given (RFK’s) stance on vaccines in general, some might wonder how you can be supportive (of his campaign)?
ACKMAN: So actually I think Kennedy raises a LOT of important questions that need to be asked and answered about vaccines. And uh, that’s something we are doing a deep dive on. Just today, I was on the phone with a scientist, and we want to put together … (trails off). What I, what I think needs to be done, is a very detailed, deep dive into all of the research on vaccines, on vaccine safety, uh, and then … Among the things we have not done a lot of work on, is the cumulative impact on a child, for example.
When I was a child, I got THREE shots. I have a four year old; he’s scheduled to get SEVENTY-THREE shots. You know… And it may not be the, you know, the virus, if you will, designed to make you immune to the disease, the dead virus, or the mRNA technology. It may be, you know, aluminum, or preservatives they use in the vaccines, which create risks and challenges.
By the way, as the parent of a four-year-old, where the four-year-old has no ability to consent to something you’re injecting into them; I feel a moral and other paternal obligation to get to the bottom of this issue. I think, Mike, I just spoke to a scientist today, a top scientist at UCSF, who said to me, you know, Kennedy is right on 75-80% of what he says about vaccines.
The unfortunate thing is the 20-25% where unfortunately there’s just not enough data to support the stuff he says convincingly. And uh, I think it’s time for us … this whole vaccine thing became a political issue. Where if you got a shot and wore a mask you were in one party. If you refused to get a shot and didn’t wear a mask you were in another political party. (But) it’s just not a political issue.
There is real reason to … look. We have a generation of kids who have a lot more asthma, a lot more excema, a lot more autism. And we don’t yet understand the reason for that. Is it some adjuvant in the vaccine? Is it something about vaccines? Is it some other toxin in the environment? I think we have an obligation — as parents — to figure this out.
INTERVIEWER: Is that where this newfound curiosity came from? From you becoming a parent?
ACKMAN: No, from actually listening to what Kennedy had to say, as opposed to… look. The biggest, I would say interesting… I give a lot of credit to Elon, and Twitter or X (or whatever you want to call it). This, you know, talking to a scientist again today, who is a brilliant epidemiologist (among other areas). And he was one of the scientists-slash-doctors that raised early questions about the covid vaccine.
And he was demoted on Twitter. One of the papers he put up on a preprint site was taken down as ‘misinformation.’ And, you know, you look at this guy Jay Bhattacharya at Stanford, his recommendations for how we should have managed covid turned out to be pretty much spot-on accurate. But he was basically just taken off Twitter as misinformation.
And now Twitter has become a place where people can express their views. I’m a huge free-speech advocate. I use Twitter — one of the most profitable investments I ever made, I made because of what I learned on Twitter.
Listen to the whole thing and appreciate how far we have come. Allow me to number just a few of the massively-winning points demonstrated by this short, five-minute clip:
CNBC aired an “anti-vaccine” segment — without labeling or undermining it.
Ackman is a respected member of the financial community.
He fundamentally and publicly changed positions on the covid vaccines.
He is now publicly skeptical of all vaccines, not just mRNA jabs.
He is listening to RFK and Elon Musk.
He is putting his own money into it, both in supporting RFK (getting the word out) and funding scientific research against vaccines.
Ackman labeled the issue a moral imperative.
Only one thing can beat the self-interested lure of money: parental love. What the Ackman clip showed most is how the vaccine issue has now transcended even self-interest, which is the spell the vaccine industry has used to hold things together since the 1980’s when this vaccine madness originally began. Now, a lot of people — including smart, successful, well-connected people — are starting to take a very hard look at jabs in general.
The vaccine lie will unravel faster than you ever thought possible. Watch and see.
Fully’s Comment..HA!
It has to be noted …WE here at the tent have to feel pretty damn good about having percieved the BULLSHIT that was The Covid Experience very early On. …LOOOOOONG Befor Bill Ackman ,Elon Musk and all the rest of the geniuses who are just NOW starting to question it all.
Congrats to US….Have a Good LONG Gloat Goldtent !!
Gloating is good. Especially when I didn’t get any jabs at all. Not one. Never even considered it. Dead on arrival. Never wore a stinking mask, either.
Being rich is never having to say you’re sorry, I suppose. Ackman should first apologize to any fool who listened to his uneducated opinion in the first place. Then he might decry the media for giving certain people the media megaphone to spout off on political issues of the day merely because they are rich and egotistical – and yes vaccine policy is a political issue, so he’s naive about that too. He can spend his money as he sees fit, but it can’t buy him good judgment, or modesty or a better brain. He was duped in the same way all the other fools were duped. Yet here he is playing the role of wise man once again. Ackman should give money to Kennedy, and shut the fuck up.
“Ackman should give money to Kennedy, and shut the fuck up.”
ROTFLMAO! I love your spirit, Strider!