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Sometimes I wonder about just plain withdrawing. I have actually lived nearly alone for a decade in many ways personally. Maybe it’s white flag time, for now. Who am I to say? However at least it may be good not to be deluded.
That you not be poisoned by the fetid hot air of the “conservative” counterparts of Rachel Maddow and Thinkers like those in the columns of the NY Times, who tell you to stay within your ideological ghetto, polluted by nothing but their ideological gas, let me suggest looking at things from a leftist site I dislike. I think you will find that it actually is other than what you might imagine from what you are instructed to believe. The site’s proprietor is probably a covert stalinist/maoist (not my type). Detractors suggest he works for the BND (German gov’t). I wouldn’t know. He is smart and well-informed. It’s about DC Jan 6-7, 2021.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/01/leaving-in-style-.html#more
I will put below in comments some comments from his readers. I will understand if the comments get deleted, or even if this message itself gets deleted. My point is however that it is a somewhat wider world than some here may realize.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/01/leaving-in-style-.html#more
@psychohistorian | Jan 7 2021 7:25 utc | 20
Agreed, but as an American who is a top/bottom realist type, who am I going to be killed by, the left or right?
Use this opportunity to finally kill the false left/right paradigm. There is no left. There is only top vs. down.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jan 7 2021 7:33 utc | 23
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Wonderful comments so far but the thread may have been won already by the comment by Arctic_Fox over at Smoothie:
“A banana republic, if you can keep it.” Apologies to Benjamin Franklin.
Posted by: Grieved | Jan 7 2021 7:45 utc | 25
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Re: “Who am I going to be killed by, the left or right?”
-psychohistorian | Jan 7 2021 7:25 utc | 20
Well, my guess is some element of our own “Gain of Function” government will likely find a way to do in the useless ones and the troublemakers first. And then there will be unavoidable collateral damage…so sorry.
And the more conspiracy-minded among us might even wonder if they have already taken some 400K of us off the stage (~same as # of US soldiers killed in WW2) on the past year, thru their ‘Shock Doctrine’ manipulation of covid pandemic.
Posted by: gm | Jan 7 2021 8:07 utc | 29
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Speculations for this moving toward civil war may be prescient, but I would predict a “managed” one if it happens, not one that devolves into a 90’s Yugoslav scenario. Keep the masses fighting tribe vs. tribe and their attention away from deeper issues of money and power. “Shock Doctrine” therapy sold as necessary to hold back the Barbarians…look for even greater censorship of dissenting views. If the proles won’t stick to the script, the time-honored tradition of engaging in a new war may be employed.
Dangerous time for false-flag fuckery on both domestic and foreign fronts, hope we can keep our antennas tuned as well as our heads thinking clearly.
Posted by: Kabobyak | Jan 7 2021 9:02 utc | 32
Trump has his faults, but his presidency has highlighted some facts. That if the president says “attack”, they send in the bombers. If the president says “withdraw”, nothing happens. And if Twitter and Facebook delete the messages of the president of the United States, then what freedom of expression does a normal citizen have?
Posted by: passerby | Jan 7 2021 9:27 utc | 34
Trump Supporters or “crisis actors”? Don’t believe anything being reportd in the U.S. Where are all the pallets of bricks and ninja outfits?
Posted by: par4 | Jan 7 2021 10:52 utc | 44
I really find it difficult to believe that the duoploy would steal an election from itself. What we are seeing is a continuation and acceleration of the oligarch coup against the US people.
More and more rights and protections, as well as wealth have been removed from the people in the US and globally. In the US, roughly starting with the Clinton admin and Glass Steagall. Then through the Bush and the Patriot Act, followed by the looting of the plebs after the 2008 “crash”, down through the war profiteering at the expense of the taxpayer, more looting by the banksters to the COVID heists by the oligarchs and the lockdowns extracting wealth from small business and people trying to make a livling. We see blackmail and the curtailing of the freedom of movement through COVID “passports” and “social distancing”, profiting big tech.
All distractions from war to “racism”, to “culture wars” to “party politics”. All to ensure that the rich get richer and the rest of us continue to enrich these parasites at our own expense. What a racket!
Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Jan 7 2021 11:09 utc | 45
With all due respect karl…this site and it’s forum is a load of BS in my books
I see nothing useful nor hopeful here
Like you, I wonder about/consider simply withdrawing into myself. Disengaging. What’s the point? I wonder if those brave few, those precious brave few, at Valley Forge entertained such thoughts as this?
Disengaging? More like reengaging, but perhaps differently.
During WWII, my maternal grandparents and my mother lived a mile or two from the German border in occupied NL on a large rural farm. My mom and her siblings were about 20yo. They belonged to the Dutch Resistance, and helped (by some counts) up to 35 allied airman get back to safety. They ran guns and food coupons. 45 of their area neighbors, including my mom’s employer (a doctor) were rounded up and executed.
If America caves here to the Fascist Left, its time to go underground. Keep the flame alive.
Thats the only attitude that works pedro
Much respect to your family for what they did against all odds
true heros
pedro_deleon: I agree 1,000%.
Much respect to you and your family members who stood against the monsters of Nazism (Read: “National Socialism”).
What a great gene pool. Fantastic courage displayed. Thanks for sharing. Underground it is. Perhaps from the ashes a phoenix will rise…
The left, that owns the government, media, Hollywood, and public education, and has finally subverted the voting process with mass mail in voting so no fair elections will ever be possible again, has successfully destroyed what binds us as Americans. Biden will put the finishing touches on the coup, and half the country will think we’ve been saved from the Nazis as we move on down the road to surfdom.
Sadly I agree
At least we knew the enemy and resist…the “other” side will have to look themselves in the mirror one day and say WTF was I thinking ?
I’m not at all hopeful that most of these zombie-fied Leftists will ever wake up from the TDS coma they’re presently in.
For the record, Fully, I agree with every sentiment you expressed in your comments on this page.
Yes, we knew and resisted. I doubt that many have the brains to get to “WTF was I thinking?”
Those in Congress and government institutions revealed their soul status these last few months, days, and hours.
Anyone still here? Please bear in mind a couple of thoughts. To the extent that left-vs-right is a useful distinction, I “self identify” more left than right and I know the left terrain all too well.
1. What’s left of the left (it has been in disarray for a century) is filled with people who often can’t stand each other and the way they think, or at best disagree strongly.
***REALLY IMPORTANT!!!!*** => #2
2. What you call “left” or “far left” people who are far-left will typically see as rightwing or far-right, certainly fascist. To the what’s left of the (far)left something like CNBC or certainly the Washington Post is not seen as even leftwing other than (maybe) pretending to have pretenses of a faint hint of fake left. It is seen as fascist, a different kind of right than the right that calls itself right-yet still far right, a right that is at least as pernicious as the right that labels itself as right. The use of handed-down labels enables those who do the “news”, who write the “analysis”, from either the fake left and fake right to confuse or shut down communication — and thought.
Cut it out.
Something like the NY Times is corporate controlled State aligned, as an approximation. You can call it that. You can go back to 1960s UK and call it Establishment. All that is less confusing than calling it “left” when the left sees it or calls it “right”. Try your own language, not that fed to you by the ideologues and manipulators and Experts.