Dr Rick Loftus, MD – Virology-trained HIV researcher
THIS IS JUST ANOTHER OPINION………..
July 2 update about Covid-19:
I’m in a hot spot hospital in a hotspot region (Coachella Valley, Inland Empire, CA). We just converted the entire second floor of our hospital to COVID-19 care yesterday, July 1. We have 65 inpatients with COVID-19 in a hospital with 368 beds. It is the same at our other 2 hospitals in the Valley.
We spent yesterday deciding the ethical way to divide up limited remdesivir (30 patients’ worth) for the hospital patients.
My 20 incoming interns for our IM residency were exposed to COVID 2 weeks ago during their computer chart training; apparently 100% of our computer trainers had COVID19. One intern tested positive 7 days later and I insisted we re-test them all again, as there are almost certainly other cases with minimal symptoms.
I raided my household and took my entire supply of face shields to the hospital for the residents to wear on their first day, and I paid $1000 of my own money to equip all of my residents with medical-grade face shields. I require all residents to wear a surgical mask or N95 with face shield if they are within 6 feet of another human, patient or coworker.
Roughly 20% of our inpatients die. Only 30% of our ventilated patients survive. (We try to avoid ventilation at all costs. Some people insist on being full code and decompensate despite high flow with face mask, proning, dexamethasone, antibiotics, and a cocktail of famotidine, zinc, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, NAC, and melatonin–we throw everything we can at each case, so long as it won’t hurt them.)
My administrative assistant, who sits adjacent to the interns, just went home with COVID symptoms. Her test is pending.
In the Southwest, we are experiencing catastrophic exponential growth. I have had multiple families–siblings, parent-child, spouses–admitted with COVID-19. I had a 31 year old come in satting 78% on room air; he had been sequestering himself in his bedroom for a week to avoid infecting his elderly parents, with whom he lived. His sister, the only person he saw outside his immediate household in the 10 days prior to onset of fever, cough, and dyspnea, had also had fevers but had tested “negative” at our other large hospital so he thought it was safe to visit her. (Sigh. The Quest PCR test is about 80% sensitive, we think–it had emergency approval, so sensitivity data was not required. The Cepheid rapid COVID PCR test is 98.5% sensitive but is in short supply due to limited reagent availability.)
I’m glad some of you are sheltered from what unbridled COVID-19 looks like. It’s a hell show. This is *July*. What do you think my hospital will look like in winter?…
This is real. Doctors in places with proper public health responses will see few cases in their hospitals–like UCSF–but let me tell you something: The laws of physics and biology don’t change. If you’re in an unaffected region, an introduction and poor governance and low use of physical distancing and masks will give you an exponential increase in no time flat (i.e. 2-4 weeks). That’s pandemic math.
And 20% of the population infected needs a hospital. You *will* run out of beds with an unbridled pandemic.
There is almost ZERO pre-existing immunity to SARS-CoV-2. There may be some “priming” of T-cell responses due to exposure to other “benign” beta-coronaviruses, but we have no idea if that explains the 20-40% of people who seem to get minimal symptoms. Asymptomatic infected persons, however, can, and do, spread COVID to those who die from it.
By the way: I’ve seen scary looking CT scans of the lungs that look like terrible interstitial pneumonia in a patient who had ZERO symptoms and SaO2 94% on room air. She came in for palpitations and the intern overnight got a chest CT for cardiac reasons. We didn’t know it was COVID until her test came back 36 hours later. So “asymptomatic” does NOT mean “no biological activity.” The virus replicates furiously in people who feel fine. Kids can spread this as easily as grown ups, even if they feel okay.
Related: I’ve talked to two previously healthy patients ages 32 and 44 who are 3 and 4 months, respectively, post their acute COVID. They continue to have cough, nightsweats, fever, fatigue. How many survivors have “post-COVID syndrome”? We don’t know. Less than 20% but we’re not sure. I’ve asked my hospital to allow me to establish a post-COVID clinic to care for and study survivors. Both NIH and UW are planning similar efforts based on my dialogues with them.
Autopsies show anoxic brain injury in many patients who died of COVID, not to mention microthrombi throughout the lungs and megakaryocytes in massive infiltrations in their hearts and other organs. People get heart failure, lung fibrosis, and permanent kidney injury from COVID-19. This is a disease of the vascular systems, and it can affect any organ, with lungs and kidneys being especially at risk.
In early May, thanks to lockdown, our census of 55 came down to 10 COVID cases, and for a brief moment, I actually had hope that the worst nightmares I had about COVID, as a biohazard virology-trained hospitalist, would not come to pass.
Then we re-opened, without test/trace/isolate systems anywhere close to adequate. Eight weeks ago my county decided to make masks “optional,” despite 125 doctors begging them not to do that. Now we’re worse than we were in April. And it’s getting worse every day.
You wanna see if COVID is real? Come walk on my COVID ward with me. It’s real. Hearing people talk about it as if it’s an exaggeration is, well, rage-inducing, honestly. Denial is the most common reaction to a pandemic. Denial is how the US will wind up with 1.1 million deaths instead of 30,000.
I saw AIDS denialists get killed by their belief that HIV “isn’t real, it’s a pharma conspiracy of the medical industrial complex.” Yeah, right, if you say so. I watched patients with those beliefs die.
The hardest part about this is, every new case I treat exposes me. I have assiduous hot zone technique. But no technique is bulletproof. If you keep exposing me to case after case, eventually, the virus will get through my defenses. I’m a 50 year old hypertensive. I don’t expect to do well if I get infected. For now, I keep going to work.
I’m one of the few pushing forward on COVID clinical trials, basic science, public health messaging, and diagnostic studies at my hospital. I feel a responsibility to keep going. I wake up with nightmares every morning at 4am. But I’m going to keep going for now. I feel very alone a lot of the time. People are not taking this seriously, and it’s costing lives. -R
“Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do after a pandemic will seem inadequate. This is the dilemma we face, but it should not stop us from doing what we can to prepare. We need to reach out to everyone with words that inform, but not inflame. We need to encourage everyone to prepare, but not panic.” — Michael O. Leavitt, 2007
Richard A. Loftus, MD
Well that sounds Really Desperate …Just Awful
We haven’t heard anything like that since New York.
Actually I haven’t seen anything like this at all from anywhere .
Have to keep an eye for other commentary from ground zero.
Everything he says with conviction like there is no T cell Immunity etc seems to fly in the face of a lot of studies .
If he’s right about all this the party is over.
How do we explain the Diamond Princess then
All those Thousands of older people locked up with each other swimming in virus and most tested negative….left the ship and went back to their lives
How do we explain Sweden and Japan and Hong Kong .
Seems to be highly selective …
Shall see
Thank you Steins1 similar to what ravaged the NE until we got serious about mask, social distancing (etc) and were able to “contain” the virus. The SE and SW did not take the virus seriously and now are unfortunately feeling the consequences. Similar stories are coming from Houston, Miami and other HOT SPOTS around the country. It appears they have not seen the peak as of yet.
We were just talking tonight about the Olympic Peninsula, where we live, how there has been very few positive tests lately and no deaths. But not a huge population, no conventions or frat parties and for the most part everyone adhering to the main steam safeguards.
I agree there have been overreactions and contradictions, but I don’t adhere to conspiracies, just stupidity.
“Over reactions and contradictions” that sums it up Steins
But One man’s conspiracy theory is another man’s research.
Another contradiction.
This hospital situation does sound dire though
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/graphics/2020/07/10/maps-show-covid-19-hot-spot-surge-south/5397551002/
USA today COVID PROGRESSION
Act Up
Dr. Loftus CV says he was a member of this Aids Advocate organization in the80’s
They seemed to be quite “acive”
Wall Street
On March 24, 1987, 250 ACT UP members demonstrated at Wall Street and Broadway to demand greater access to experimental AIDS drugs and for a coordinated national policy to fight the disease.[6] An Op/Ed article by Larry Kramer published in The New York Times the previous day described some of the issues ACT UP was concerned with.[7] Seventeen ACT UP members were arrested during this civil disobedience.[8]
On March 24, 1988, ACT UP returned to Wall Street for a larger demonstration in which over 100 people were arrested.
On September 14, 1989, seven ACT UP members infiltrated the New York Stock Exchange and chained themselves to the VIP balcony to protest the high price of the only approved AIDS drug, AZT. The group displayed a banner that read, “SELL WELLCOME” referring to the pharmaceutical sponsor of AZT, Burroughs Wellcome, which had set a price of approximately $10,000 per patient per year for the drug, well out of reach of nearly all HIV positive persons. Several days following this demonstration, Burroughs Wellcome lowered the price of AZT to $6,400 per patient per year.[10]
Florida governor finally releases the true numbers of people hospitalized with coronavirus
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis finally caved in to pressure to release the actual numbers of coronavirus cases in the state’s hospitals.
Until Friday, DeSantis had refused to reveal the true numbers, leaving many in the state unaware of just how bad the cases were. According to the Orlando Sentinel, a whopping 7,000 Floridians are in hospitals hoping they survive the virus.
“The data, which for the first time breaks down the number of people in the hospital with coronavirus, was promised by the state two weeks ago,” the report explained.
“As of Friday, Miami-Dade had more than 1,500 hospitalized COVID-19 patients, the largest number reported in Florida, followed by Broward County at 970 and Palm Beach County at 600. Orange County had the fourth-largest number of COVID-19 hospitalizations at 478,” the numbers revealed.
Until now, Florida has been one of only three states hiding the truth about the COVID-19 hospitalizations from the public. DeSantis has been criticized for refusing to release the data, which researchers and epidemiologists have said is important for their calculations in measuring the spread of the disease.
President Donald Trump, who was in Miami-Dade County Friday afternoon, has celebrated the COVID-19 cases, saying that the death rate is going down and all is well. In fact, the death rates are beginning to increase.
Often what occurs is the cases of COVID-19 increase, then the hospitalizations increase, and then the death rate goes up. Trump’s victory lap occurred when people were just beginning to go into hospitals as the virus got worse for them.
Remember there is another dynamic going on
Everybody who goes to the hospital for any reason is tested for Covid
If they are positive ( apparently in Florida something like 30% of these patients are)
then they are listed as covid in the hospital even though they didn’t know they had covid and were in the hospital for other reasons….not because of the virus .
Don’t know how many are in this category but it’s something to note for sure.
What is a Covid death ?
2 minute video
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/illinois-department-health-director-admits-anyone-coronavirus-time-death-counted-coronavirus-death-video/
Thank you for posting this Steins. Here in the UK we’ve seen constant accounts just like this in the press and on the BBC, ITV and independent news outlets. People I know who work in the ER Covid wards have left me in little doubt how horrific it is. I post very little of it here because it seems to cause upset, or even anger. I’ve said it seems to be hitting places very differently. If you live in an area that hasn’t been hit bad, you’ll probably feel differently to us over here. From a doctors or nursed perspective it is horrific from every one of their first hand accounts I’ve seen.
>>>I’ve said it seems to be hitting places very differently<<<
Yes, where I live it has been very light….I live on a freaking island!
Ferry service and commuting has been minimized by stay home orders, telecommuting, Zoom, etc.
We tend to see what we want to see…….
Listen to what the nurse (with 23 years experience) says and the doctors comment on his ‘naivety’ in expecting it to be all older people. The lockdown was instrumental in stopping these scenes becoming more widespread and lasting longer. I do feel it was about the only thing we could do at the time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrfRs0WeShU
I strongly agree –but approximately.
Agreement: It always made sense to err on the side of caution to avoid overloading the hospitals. It is bad to wreck hospitals and make them major sources of infection for a tricky communicable disease that is not well understood, also rendering them unable to perform their normal services, many of which are critically important. “Flattening the curve” made sense.
Reservations:
= > The authorities were incompetent nincompoops in many jurisdictions, slow to act, slow to inform. (I believe, certainly hope it was bureaucratic incompetence, not malicious intent to harm.) I was in cool slow panic mode (loading up on hand sanitizer, toilet paper, gloves, looking for old household chloroquine, hydroxychloquine, disinfectants, goggles, extra vitamins, masks, etc etc etc just in case they might turn out to be useful) back pretty early in January) when in the US (such as the sainted Fauci, not just Trumpish types) were playing things down. If I saw problems, the authorities might have. They are well paid to do these things. Their response pretty much all the way round was gross malfeasance. If a “lockdown” was in some sense good it came way too late in many jurisdictions and without adequate preparation.
(Also stuff like sending infected patients to nursing homes w/o having given rigorous and intense training (+equipment) to nursing home staff was on top of it all as negligent and negligence gets.)
= > I do not think that compulsion (“lockdown”) was necessary. Most people are pretty decent — even though high governmental officials, corporate “leaders”, etc who are so visible may be extreme exceptions to the rule. In Thailand reportedly for some reason the usually contentious political parties cut the garbage for the sake of public health. They let public health officials alone. The public health officials got on TV and told people that they should do the right thing, which was X, Y, Z. People wanted to do the right thing, and they did the right thing. There were explanations and there was education. Or so I read. I am sure I read an oversimplified version. However all the finger-pointing (“Trump allowed it to happen” “I think the virus is going to go away by ABC date” “No it’s just the flu” “The ABC did it”) at the expense of sticking to facts and education about viruses, epidemiology, and public health tended to be counterproductive. It and the compulsion is having extremely bad side effects now, with all the ideology in place of understanding, and encouraging people to plan and to help each other. I think the compulsion in the long run was and is part of the problem, and part of the gross malfeasance. A bit less of garbage TV (distractions, ideology) and a bit more virology etc might not have hurt. But then … without ideology, distortion, and distraction…
Thanks Steins for posting- I was a bacteriology/immunology major at Berkeley way back when and remember enough basics to know wearing a mask in public and
avoiding the public keep you safest – herd immunity will eventually run it’s course but the doc knows what he’s talking (experiencing) about
Excuse me BUT…How do you get herd immunity if everybody AVOIDS everybody and schools are closed etc
Plus back in the good old days NOBODY wore masks because all the considerable evidence showed that they DO NOT PREVENT INFECTION !
THIS was still the party line as late as April / may from the WHO and CDC
Masks do not work…is what they said…then without any firm evidence they changed all that…don’t you fond that strange
I think the virus has effected your sense of logic, you keep trying to make circular, never ending arguments. The dog chasing it’s tail.