Covid 19 : In Support of Plandemic
There is ALWAYS the other side of the story…
A comment from a retired doctor regarding Dr Mikovitz’ work”Plandemic”
Dale Haggman
19 hours ago
Dr Galvin: Dr. Dale Haggman, DO responding to your You Tube 2 day discussion on “Pandemic”. I am a retired Cardiologist and have had plenty of time to read these past 2 years. So I decided to read Judy Mikovits, PHD’s book entitled Plague (2014). This describes the whole event of what happened surrounding her 2009 publication in Science. I would highly recommend everyone reading this (before judging her and saying she mixes lies in a polished way with truth) to get her side of the story which can’t be fully appreciated in a short interview. I will address only a few issues since you bring them upon your talk. 1) She did discover the association of the retrovirus XMRV viruses with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS) and was praised for the discovery initially and other scientists did in fact reproduce similar findings! However, she made the fatal mistake of mentioning on a broadcasted interview the possible contamination of vaccines and possible association with autism. This enraged the CDC and NIH and that’s when the hammer came down. You see, the government does not want scientists implying they may have been harming the public for years and so they funded their own research studies, which ultimately were negative. The reason you ask?? Because they did not follow the stringent criteria for defining a CFS patient. They took all comers with fatigue which as you know being a physician will lower the likelihood of producing similar results, and that is exactly what happened. (dirty science…ehh??) Well let’s move on……2) Her results were NOT contaminated. She describes the exact procedures she used and viral sequencing results which others failed to follow. I will leave it at that. Too much detail to mention but you can read it in the book. 3) She was jailed for “stolen” material…..ok, I have been a clinical investigator on previous clinical studies and know if you are funded by the government, your data is your own to keep. In fact, if you were fired from an Institution, you could work somewhere else and continue that same research with your data and same grant money. Judy was working for WPI (Whittemore Peterson Institute) in Nevada and after her “fatal” interview, the WPI grant money was in question. They now may not be funded for further research. Well Harvey Whittemore (who gave a “campaign contribution” to Judge Adams who presided over the case) drummed up “stolen data” charges saying the data belonged to him and WPI. He had her arrested without warrant, 5 days of jail time without a court hearing because the Judge pronounced a default sentence, which says she is guilty without a defense day in court!!! (Harvey was later arrested and spent 2 years in jailed for money fraud). See now the waters are getting even muddier….4) So you may ask…So what, who cares about her research anyway? Well as a doctor, you know about retroviruses and just in case you forgot, I will refresh your memory….RetroV have reverse transcriptase which allows the retroV to transcribe it’s own RNA into the host cell DNA and be permanent. She stated this was happening in the vaccine cultures with mouse tissue. You see mice and other animals are contaminated with COVID and retroV’s and what is occurring in the lab is a sort of Frankenvirus, where the retroV inserts itself into the vaccine virus making a new super virulent strain. These viruses become latent (or sleepy) in your B and T cells on the Immune system and activated at a later time. Hmmm…..let me see now, let’s get this straight…”Dr” Bill Gates wants mandatory vaccinations for all children and adults (in fact, they are in the process of making 7 billion COVID vaccines) and the rate of autism is increasing and projected to be 1:2 children by the year (as I recall) around 2030 (?). Anyways, her research is groundbreaking and for all of you who want to believe in the altruistic state of our government, I ask that you be a truth seeker and ask a lot of questions before being judgmental and not even reading her own book to obtain her side of the story.
Dr. #2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHeg9DDrjMs
IMHO…this “doctor” is a f^&*ing moron. I wouldn’t trust him with MY life .
He doesn’t even consider the possibility of this information being remotely on point .
His MO is to rant and rave …methinks he doth protest too much !
Dr. #3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWpjc1QZg84
Dr.s Number 4 thru 704
https://www.propublica.org/article/we-found-over-700-doctors-who-were-paid-more-than-a-million-dollars-by-drug-and-medical-device-companies
Wouldn’t be surprised to find #2 and #3 in this group
Just sayn
🙂
Dr.#5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BESMxl9-P9w
Thank You Silverboom .
This exercise will prove to show…MOST people do not have an open mind
Most of the naysayers will dig in their heels and not even consider the reams of ‘evidence” that there is something going on behind the scenes that is not as it seems.
WON”T EVEN CONSIDERE IT !
They will continue to just censor and character assassinate anyone who dares to rock the boat
I resent the catch all phrase “Conspiracy Theory”
There are of course many unsubstantiated yet interesting enough “Conspiracy Theories” to hook people so inclined.
THIS topic is NOT a Conspiracy Theory IMO.
It is a debate on the origins and purpose of the most disruptive event in our lifetimes.
IF that is not worthy of keeping an open mind and at least considering a view presented by little people and just accept the view presented by BIG PEOPLE…then there is no hope at least for those with closed minds.
Was this just some random event that the Powers that be are trying to control and eradicate or is there much more than meets the eye…are we not allowed to ask this question ? screw that !
Is it NOT obvious that those with the POWER , those with the Money, Those who OWN the narrative via most media outlets are PUSHING BACK very heavily trying very hard to discredit those relatively powerless individuals who are questioning motives !
Thanks again…this is a very good rebuttal to those who dismiss Dr. Judy as just an jealous ex convict.
As a side note, he is a DO not an MD. Nothing wrong with OD’s — it is an accepted medical degree.
1.) “She did discover the association of the retrovirus XMRV viruses with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS) and was praised for the discovery initially and other scientists did in fact reproduce similar findings!” I have not heard this before. Is it really true — no evidence is provided.
2.) “Her results were NOT contaminated.” Want proof — read her book!!!!!!
3.) “Her research/data was hers to keep” — I would have to look that one up so I will pass
4.) Dr. Bill Gates is bad. He was a ruthless businessman so it does follow that is still a bad boy.
Fully: ” MOST people do not have an open mind. Most of the naysayers will dig in their heels and not even consider the reams of ‘evidence” that there is something going on behind the scenes that is not as it seems. WON”T EVEN CONSIDERE IT !”
I don’t mind reading stuff – but I won’t watch a 1 hour video on youtube (unless it is a counting crows concert!). But no, this piece of garbage that is passed off as evidence is as far from that as you can get.
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“Good science comes in peer reviewed journals.
Conspiracy theories come in videos. “
Her original work on Virus caused CFS was peer reviewed and published and praised in a respected journal.
Then retracted years later after she implied , unrelated to her published piece , that vaccines have mouse shit in them.
The Lab she worked for fired her under pressure form funders and the boss paid off a judge to jail her…and when discovered HE went to jail and SHE was released
Did you read that ?
The article was retracted because no one could duplicate the findings. You can believe that there was unrelated nefarious stuff going on — but she was just one of 13 authors on the paper (she was the last name listed) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19815723 .
From https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/judy-mikovits/ (never heard of heavy.com, but it is a good name!)
The abstract for the debunked 2009 study reads:
Chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) is a debilitating disease of unknown etiology that is estimated to affect 17 million people worldwide. Studying peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMCs) from CFS patients, we identified DNA from a human gammaretrovirus, xenotropic murine leukemia virus–related virus (XMRV), in 68 of 101 patients (67%) as compared to 8 of 218 (3.7%) healthy controls. Cell culture experiments revealed that patient-derived XMRV is infectious and that both cell-associated and cell-free transmission of the virus are possible. Secondary viral infections were established in uninfected primary lymphocytes and indicator cell lines after their exposure to activated PBMCs, B cells, T cells, or plasma derived from CFS patients. These findings raise the possibility that XMRV may be a contributing factor in the pathogenesis of CFS.
At the time of the study’s publishing, Mikovits was still working as research director for the Whittemore Peterson Institute. The 2009 study was published in a prestigious journal and was expected to represent a breakthrough, Snopes reports, as it suggested a “viral cause” for chronic fatigue syndrome.
In 2011, the journal Science published an “editorial Expression of Concern.” In summarizing the research findings, the expression of concern noted that the article claimed “to show that a retrovirus called XMRV (xenotropic murine leukemia virus–related virus) was present in the blood of 67% of patients with chronic fatigue syndrome.”
However, other studies could not replicate the findings. “Since then, at least 10 studies conducted by other investigators and published elsewhere have reported a failure to detect XMRV in independent populations of CFS patients,” the expression of concern notes. Instead, there was a growing view that any association “likely reflects contamination of laboratories and research reagents with the virus,” the notation states.
The journal noted that the research “attracted considerable attention, and its publication in Science has had a far-reaching impact on the community of CFS patients and beyond.” However, because “the validity of the study by Lombardi et al. is now seriously in question, we are publishing this Expression of Concern and attaching it to Science’s 23 October 2009 publication by Lombardi et al.”
The authors issued a partial retraction of their findings, but the paper was later retracted in full. Mikovits was one of multiple authors listed on the study.
In the retraction, Bruce Alberts, the editor-in-chief, wrote that there “is evidence of poor quality control in a number of specific experiments in the Report” and noted that other studies couldn’t replicate the findings. “Science has lost confidence in the Report and the validity of its conclusions. We note that the majority of the authors have agreed in principle to retract the Report but they have been unable to agree on the wording of their statement,” Alberts wrote. “… We are therefore editorially retracting the Report.”
A 2012 release from the American Society of Microbiology says: “Contrary to previous findings, new research finds no link between chronic fatigue syndrome and the viruses XMRV (xenotropic murine leukemia virus-related virus) and pMLV (polytropic murine leukemia virus).”
Fauci played a role in the ultimate discrediting of the research; according to Discover magazine, “the NIH’s AIDS czar, Anthony Fauci, asked his friend Ian Lipkin, a neurologist and virus hunter at the Center for Infection and Immunity at Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health, to settle the impasse” — the debate about the findings. Lipkin’s findings demonstrated that “XMRV was not actually a human pathogen … but a man-made contaminant unwittingly manufactured in a lab in the 1990s,” the magazine reported.
Mikovits participated in Lipkin’s study and also concluded that it was “the definitive answer. … There is no evidence that XMRV is a human pathogen.”
Well a lot of research must have gone into the original paper and it was accepted by an respected journal
So there is a discrepancy there.
And IF she was only 1 of 11 researchers to file the study which was accepted why is she such a culprit in any case.
And how does all this have anything to do with her assertations about Fauci and Gates.
And you do realize that Snopes has come under fire for being much less than honest and to have an agenda by many amalysts. In the end its the same old shit Left believes this and right believes that …and open minds are hard to find,
We are at an impasse it seems.
I agree to disagree. I tend to favor the truth in any case….and I do not believe in Gates nor Fauci nor big Pharma…
and you obviously do…
regards
Fully
It’s a case of what I stated earlier. Whoever has the most money and power has the ability to silence and then smear the other side. Dr. Judy’s crime was to indict the vaccine industry. The fact that her research couldn’t be replicated because those involved were protecting the side with the money and power is not hard to believe.
Whatever the outcome or validity of Dr. Judy’s retrovirus research, it comes down to who you trust. I believe actions will eventually be taken by Fauci and Gates to cause people to question their motivations. Right now they haven’t laid all their cards on the table. We’ll just have to wait and see. I think if and when it happens, whatever “it” is, they will be met with such resistance that they will have to back down.
“They’re not sticking any of that virus crap in my arm” will be the resistance…
Could get ugly !
The endless Politicalization of the Covid crisis
–> starting February, when COVID was declared a Democrats’ HOAX
brings to mind quotes from ‘Real Time’ on Friday:
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“I don’t know it for a Fact, I just know it’s True.”
— Bill Maher
“Believing everything doesn’t make you noble, it makes you gullible.”
— Bill Maher
That can be used both ways Alfa…Believing everything your Government and Big Pharma and World health Bodies say doesn’t make you independent , it makes you sheeple”
That sounds about right to me ..and I’m NOT political…just calling a snake a snake…and fauci is definitely a snake
he even has little snakey eyes 🙂
BTW I am completely disenfranchised from the democrats…they had some good young talent to chose from and they picked a 78 year old senile groper.
Not so sure he would be an improvement..either way you guys are screwed !
Jesse Ventura for Presdent.
Ok, it looks like I and a few others admit defeat.
* The bright side: Strength in reduced-numbers *
Those behind Plandemic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWeLmmNt72k
Ask Yourselves what are they going to such great lengths to discredit everybody involved in this movie.
Have you ever seen anything like this ?
It amazing to me.
Censorship , rebuttals , character assassination over and over again,
This is much like the Veit Nam era…One side had Nothing but gumption and the other side of the argument had the full power of the government and media machine behind it
Which side turned out to be 100% correct ?
It was a corrupt war from the start and so many died…for what ?
History rhymes.