Deja Flu
Look at this.
The Forgotten Flu of 1957
I knew nothing about this although I was 7 years old at the time.
Check it out.
https://www.theworldofchinese.com/2020/04/the-forgotten-flu/
We think this is the first / worst viral epidemic in our lifetimes…but for some of us older folks apparently it is so far very similar to the “Forgotten” Flu of 1957.
Some interesting statistics ?
It started in China ( possible at a wet market)
It is believed to have killed up to 2 Million People Worldwide
It is believed to have killed 70,000 in the USA with a Population of 177 million at the time….almost exactly half of todays.
So this translates to 140,000 deaths in todays terms.
There were SOME quarantines and lockdowns and industry Closures ( not an today’s scale ..but the economy certainly took a hit…NOT ON TODAYS SCALE)
The good news >? Obviously it eventually ended !
It seems to have been all but spent within a year as “heard immunity ” and a vaccine did the trick.
And the Economy obviously recovered.
So in 1957 a Novel Flu virus swept through the world killing up to 2 million people ( 4 million in todays terms) and closing A FEW sections of the economy and initially overwhelming the medical systems in many places…It effectively had 2 major waves and lasted about a year .
To date we have documented 200,000 worldwide deaths . 55,000 in the USA.
Yes we have a long ways to go but at least we have a template from 1957 .
Read the article to see the similarities .
Do you think covid will be all but forgotten in 60 years ?
Answer…probably .
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PS …I found this which shows a dramatically different approach by public health and a dramatically different economic result
Summary
The 1957-58 pandemic was such a rapidly spreading disease that it became quickly apparent to U.S. health officials that efforts to stop or slow its spread were futile. Thus, no efforts were made to quarantine individuals or groups, and a deliberate decision was made not to cancel or postpone large meetings such as conferences, church gatherings, or athletic events for the purpose of reducing transmission. No attempt was made to limit travel or to otherwise screen travelers. Emphasis was placed on providing medical care to those who were afflicted and on sustaining the continued functioning of community and health services. The febrile, respiratory illness brought large numbers of patients to clinics, doctors’ offices, and emergency rooms, but a relatively small percentage of those infected required hospitalization.
School absenteeism due to influenza was high, but schools were not closed unless the number of students or teachers fell to sufficiently low numbers to warrant closure. However, the course of the outbreak in schools was relatively brief, and many could readily return to activities within 3 to 5 days. A significant number of healthcare workers were said to have been afflicted with influenza, but reports indicate that hospitals were able to adjust appropriately to cope with the patient loads. Based on our New York Times review, there were no reports that major events were canceled or postponed except for high school and college football games, which were often delayed because of the number of players afflicted.
Available data on industrial absenteeism indicate that the rates were low and that there was no interruption of essential services or production. The overall impact on GDP was negligible and likely within the range of normal economic variation.29
Health officers had hopes that significant supplies of vaccine might become available in due time, and special efforts were made to speed the production of vaccine, but the quantities that became available were too late to affect the impact of the epidemic. The national spread of the disease was so rapid that within 3 months it had swept throughout the country and had largely disappeared. It was reported that with the end of the fall epidemic, demands for vaccine declined sharply. Whether a renewed effort was made to encourage vaccination before the spring of 1958 is not known, but many believe it was not.
During the 1957 pandemic, 25% of the U.S. population became ill with influenza, and excess mortality due to pneumonia and influenza occurred. From one watching the pandemic from very close range, though, it was a transiently disturbing event for the population, albeit stressful for schools and health clinics and disruptive to school football schedules.
The vaccine had no effect then as it has no effect today. It’s difficult to develop a vaccine to match a strain. It’s got a lot of junk in it that’ll make you sicker than the flu would. Vaccines are dirty. I never vaccinated my kids. I had two vaccines as a child. Maybe I’m rolling the dice, but my kid’s doctor told me the healthiest kids in her practice were those who’d never been vaccinated. They rarely suffer any kind of auto immune disease like asthma, food allergies or childhood leukemia. Go figure. The polio vaccine I got had SV40 monkey virus left in it. And they knew it was in there when thy manufactured it. It shows up in many cancers in people my age, mainly of the brain. Fun. We’ve overreacted to this as a nation and destroyed our economy when we should have had selective quarantines of those at risk,like me whose has had bouts of pneumonia in the past. Places that have not shut down do not suffer anymore death rates than those that did.
I dunno Marcus
This one seems more virulent and unpredictable.
But I hear you.
It looks like “Asian Flu” in 1957 they just gave up trying to contain it and had to let it run it’s course.
It took off so fast they just kinda said…You know what…it’s gonna kill people and we can’t stop it so we will just have to soldier on until it’s gone
And they did and in general society shrugged it of…although for 2 million families it was not that benign.
But the article says not many were hospitalized in the USA…that’s perplexing
70,000 died in USA…all the articles agree on that.
So did they just stay home and die ?
Anyhow its a different time and we have Hyper awareness of every little detail.
The media is ubiquitous and we watch it 24/7
In 1957 there was black and white TV and radio and they got their news wekly rather than minute by minute.
There wouldn’t be the hysteria that we have now.
Very interesting the two different reactions.
PS Polio was a seriously bad disease…I grew up with a friend who got it around this time 1957 and he was paralysed from the waist down for life.
Quite a guy…he was a real trooper…never complained…never saw him in a wheel chair…crutches on both sides and went on to become a multi millionaire via the entertainment industry.
Estimated 25 million in USA alone have XMRV virus floating around in their bodies. This is a virus that remains dormant in mouse brains, and was introduced into various vaccine bases. It has a long latency period of decades before it starts to generate cancerous cells and tissues in the body. Combine it with a corona virus and the latency period gets reduced to about a week or two, ending in death in many cases…but not from cancer, from Covid19!
The vaccine producers cannot be sued. So a class action by 25 million would be quashed.
This info has been buried for obvious reasons.
My best friend growing up, his name was Scott, lived just down the street. He had had polio. It resulted in his having a withered right arm. I thought that arm was unusual, it just hung there like a noodle, but not strange. I practically grew up with him, so he was like a brother. 35 years later he called me out of the blue from California to tell me he was dying of brain cancer. I was just leaving the house so i told him I would call him back. I was in that honeymoon phase with my wife and this precious friend from childhood had died by the time I called him back a week later. I’ll never forgive myself for that.
Gees marcus…that’s a tough one…actually crying here…sorry man