Inflation or deflation which is more likely.
I have read much financial commentary that claims we are in a deflationary spiral. They cite the collapse in commodity prices along with the collapse of the Baltic Dry Index (a barometric measure of shipping through the global economy)
A collapse in the Baltic Dry Index it is maintained leads to recession, or even a full blown depression!
In terms of Gold they maintain that as it has not collapsed to the extent of other commodities therefore a collapse in the Gold price is inevitable. (Armstrong’s call for $600 Gold for example)
Is this true? Lets take a look at the performance of commodities and the Baltic Dry Index.
Here is a PerfChart of the performance of the Bloomberg Total return index of a broad range of commodities over the past 200 days. This includes agriculture, energy, precious metals and “softs” I also added the Baltic Dry Index.
Softs are commodities we all consume every day coffee, cocoa, sugar, corn, wheat, soybean, fruit and livestock
You will notice the the Baltic Dry Index (light blue line) bottomed in Feb of this year along with ALL commodities including Gold at the same time.
Taking the Feb bottom as the starting point you can see they have all risen dramatically. The best performer is the Softs.
Here is a chart of the better performing “Softs” along with precious metals for comparison purposes.
Sugar is the star here up a staggering 50%
Petroleum up about 20%
Coffee 20%
precious metals 20%
Precious metals have risen so far no more than my morning cup of Joe.
So whats my conclusion? I don’t think deflation is going to be a problem going forward. In fact the dramatic recovery of commodity prices makes me think that sooner, rather than later, these increases will show up in consumer prices, leading to inflation.
Good thoughts, and charts, Gold Tooth. Another newsletter I read just re-recommended DBA as a possible 3 year hold to double your money. They’re saying investors who missed the first 20% will still make a ton of money over the 2 – 3 year horizon. Sound familiar?
So DBA is being added to the PF for sure.
Thanks Gold Tooth,
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Peppermint Patty actually called the forthcoming bottom in BDI on 18 Jan:
https://goldtadise.com/?p=360461 …. how about that !!
Thanks for remembering that Paul
Good call there Patty where very you are
Gold Tooth, its good to have new blood and new commentary, welcome. Sometime back I made a few comments on DOW theory which had some minor errors in semantics. Mark commented on this and corrected them. He was correct and I appreciated this correction. Its important we use this forum to constantly raise the bar and improve ourselves. So along those lines I offer these comments on some of the above items.
A collapse in the Baltic index does not lead to a depression. It may indicative of declining trade and economic activity, but the only thing that leads to a depression is the collapse of credit. That’s the root and the source of causation. The BDI simply is an indicator of this process.
Gold is money, period. Not to be confused as a commodity. It is not a commodity, as it is not consumed. We should not analyze it as a commodity. This explains why it can go up in an environment of deflation.
I disagree that deflation is not going to be a problem going forward. I tend to think the rally in the softs over the past 6 months may be merely a bounce in a downtrend or a cyclical bull within the confines of a secular bear. But deflation is likely going to reassert itself with its source being the devaluation of the Chinese Yuan. They must devalue to save their banks and it will export deflation throughout the world. This is the next leg down to come in deflation in all likelihood. It will be a problem for the rest of the world.
I should have made the distinction that of course Gold is money, and not a commodity.
I think it’s important to understand that gold is indeed a commodity, and has proved itself to be one of the most marketable ones throughout history, thereby making it the primary medium of exchange in civilized societies up until the the middle part of the 20th century when the world entered into a delusion that will end in disaster. The reason that the fiat currencies of the world today are inevitably doomed to fail is precisely because they are not commodities, nor are they legal tender backed by commodities, and therefore have values that are totally subject to the will of those who control them.
Petroleum was down 20%,right?
I would suggest reading the first chapter of Richards current book “The new case for gold”. It clears up all of these issues discussed above and makes the case that gold is not a commodity and has a valuable discussion defining the origins of the concept of intrinsic value and subjective value.
Its a short easy book to read and it would put everyone on the same page when discussing these topics.
This is very much like discussing inflation and deflation. Until you first define and agree on the definitions its a pretty fruitless exercise