Loading ...Potential Risks From Using Ivermectin
I came across this material which was produced on a site called Tim Truth. You may have heard of him before. The article is titled “Clastogenic – 18 Studies Highlighting Ivermectin Induced DNA Breakage, Damage and DNA Disorders“. I am not medically trained so I cannot attest to the validity of what is written but Tim is quoting from a variety of studies as you will see. This all came as news to me. Have we not been hearing from every corner of the alternative media about the virtues of Ivermectin? Have the voices of approval not been nearly overwhelming?
Clearly, Tim has a different outlook on this supposed harmless drug and he goes into detail discussing why you should think twice before popping anymore pills. The one thing that is consistent as far as I am concerned is that we are being lied to constantly by just about everyone. Its getting harder and harder to know who can be trusted. Tim however appears to be telling the truth at least insofar as his review of the many detailed studies on Ivermectin go. We should probably give this article some consideration before going whole hog on the Ivermectin kick. If he is correct then this drug poses considerable risks as it is implicated in causing DNA damage.
There is also an accompanying video that some people here may prefer.
“CLASTOGENIC” – 18 Studies Highlighting Ivermectin Induced DNA Breakage, Damage & Related Disorders
https://timtruth.substack.com/p/be6a4f64-ed75-4f96-bedf-146463facf12
Ivermectin and DNA Damage -Rumble Video from Tim Truth
Not buying this on face value
need to hear from the IVM Docs we all know who swear by it
I am sure they will have something to say about it.
Even the Main Stream Medical Industrial Complex has said it is one of the safest drugs out there with billions ofdoses given and very few side effects reported
Brighteon ( Mike Adams ) is well known for Sensationalism and fear mongering for eyeballs . I dropped it a few years ago.
Can’t dismiss anything out of hand of course BUT I trust Doctors like Paul Marek and Peter McCoullough and Pierre Kory and the hundreds of studies we have reported on here…over anything from brighteon
JMHO
PS…everything ( even water) is toxic at a certain dose
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Mike Adams has nothing to do with the article Fully. The story was originally written on a site named TimTruth. Brighteon also has nothing to do with production as it merely hosts the video. They host thousands of videos on a range of topics. You could put video there too and it would not reflect on Brighteon or have anything to do with Mike Adams. Did you read the studies? Whatever your opinion of the individual mentioned there is still a thing known as objectivity. Would you prefer I listed all the scientists who were involved in each of the studies and then wrote to each of them and asked if they think Mike Adams would approve? lol
As I often like to ask you….How sure are you about your doubts? You sure sound certain. BTW I have doubts about McCullough. He has gone too commercial with the Wellness Company. Covid cures is big business. Of course he would not endorse questions about Ivermectin since he approves of it. But like all things in life we need to do our own due dilligence. Because everyone is bullshitting us these days.
I read the studies. This is very concerning, and should not be dismissed. Well done Sir Farmer, bringing this to our attention.
I think we need to dig deeper, to find the real truth.
Good to hear Leo. I agree we should not disregard this kind of evidence out of hand. I found it alarming to be honest. I mean…WTF! But I have followed a regimen of avoiding most medications for the last two years (although I have tried Ivermectin since it was getting such good press). In general though all meds are now suspect in my view and since I am not in a position to prove or disprove that any medicine is good or bad I will just err on the side of caution and avoid if possible. We all use too much from pharma as it is. Everyone is a pill popper these days it seems. There is something wrong wtih that kind of thinking. If you are not sick then why take the drugs just because you got a prescription? There is almost always a natural alternative.
I changed the video source above incidentally. It now links to Rumble. Hopefully that will pass Fully’s test of validity since Mike Adams is not associated any longer (not that he ever was).
I wonder if ivermectin was going to be the original “safe and effective” anti-dote, before it lost its patent rights? They missed the window back then?
I am beginning to wonder if Ivermectin was not the backdoor means to orally vaccinate people who objected strenuously to the shots!
I still think Ivermecton is a wonder drug
It has been used for 25 years for parasitites in humans and has shown almost Zero documented side effects
It has been used in veterinarian medicine for just as long and is one of the most popular dewormers .
I just took 24 mg . I have been taking it for a year now every second week ( I forgot my dose…so thanks for the reminder)…PS…NO WORMS 🙂
Read this one please and comment if you will Farmer and Leo
Safety of Ivermectin
..Standard doses of ivermectin (0.2 mg/kg x 1–2 days) have a nearly unparalleled safety profile
historically among medicines as evidenced by the following findings:
.. WHO Guidelines for Scabies: “the majority of side effects are minor and transient”
.. Prof. Jacques Descotes, Toxicologist and Expert on Safety of Ivermectin: “severe adverse
events are unequivocally and exceedingly rare”
…LiverTox Database: Not considered toxic to the liver
Nephrotox Database: Not considered toxic to the kidney
…PneumoTox: Not considered toxic to the lungs
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/FLCCC-Information-Evidence-for-Safety-of-Ivermectin.pdf
here is a detailed article of it’s development and efficacy
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/
I have come to the conclusion that belief systems are unshakable. We are unable to change course once our minds are set. It may as well be cast in concrete. But what if this guy Tim is right Fully? I have no idea and no way to prove him wrong. Maybe just consider what he is saying before you take anymore of those pills. He is saying its a neurotoxin. Maybe listen to his latest video and see if the evidence adds up.
https://rumble.com/v2yxwyu-dosed-and-confused-will-the-truth-community-ever-shake-its-ivermectin-induc.html
I would not consider Fauci’s NIH, the WHO or FLCCC as such great sources of trusted information anymore. All of them are tarnished after what has happened. What else have you got?
What if Tim is right ?
Then I’ll get sick and let you know …meanwhile what if this guy ( see below) is Right ? seems pretty well credentialled to give an opinion . A world renouned toxicologist
What if Tim works for Pfizer ?
Aslo you seem to be playing the same game …you distrust the FLCCC ( why ?) but OK….however the studies cited about the safety profile of Ivermectin were NOT done by the FLCCC…they list 7 studies by independent researchers
and they mention this one
I’ll save you the full report as it is Very Long and he cites HUNDREDS of referrences
VII. CONCLUSION
Hundreds of millions of human subjects have been treated with ivermectin for curative
or prophylactic purposes worldwide over the last 3 decades. The reference list of this
report demonstrates that a large body of data is available, which allows for a detailed
analysis of ivermectin medical safety. Undoubtedly, uncertainties remain regarding
ivermectin pharmacological effects and mechanisms of action, but when removed, this
is not anticipated to alter the main conclusions of this report in any significant way as
they rely on an extensive and consistent body of medical publications.
Taking into account all the above, the author of the present analysis of the
available medical data concludes that the safety profile of ivermectin has so far been
excellent in the majority of treated human patients so that ivermectin human toxicity
cannot be claimed to be a serious cause for concern
May 2021
Who is this guy ?
Jacques Descotes MD, PharmD, PhD
Professor Emeritus, Claude Bernard University of Lyon
Fellow, US Academy of Toxicological Sciences
Eurotox Registered Toxicologist
IMMUNOSAFE CONSULTANCE
120 Chemin des Bouleaux
38480 Saint Jean d’Avelanne, France
Tel. +33 (0)616 96 35 97
E-mail = descotes@me.com
https://www.medincell.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Clinical_Safety_of_Ivermectin-March_2021.pdf
Bottom line you gotta decide at some point I have seen more than enough to decide Ivermectin is safe to satisfy me.
I agree with you there. We each need to do our own due diligence. I am on the side of avoiding all medications. Its the simplest of solutions I realize. But the industry is factory producing poison at this stage of the game. Maybe we are just finding out how bad it really is. For me its like one new shock every week. The most recent was Acetominiphen. I had no idea the stuff was so dangerous. By the way Fully, why are you taking Ivermectin? I mean, if you are not sick then why put any medication in your gut?
Why put anything in my gut ?
Iam glad you asked…Wasn’t it you who posted that Gut bacteria is the key to the whole Spike Protein Death and destruction ?
A certain benificial gut bacteria was said to be missing in many people since the vaxx was rolled out.
Ivermectin is said to destroy the effects of spike and since it’s derived from “dirt” I suspect its good for the benificial bacteria …to keep them balanced and tuned up
The important thing is for all of us to keep an open mind and stay healthy. Yes that info on gut bacteria was amazing. Little by little I am being led to the answers I need to live a better life. This is a great adventure Fully. So no problem if you take IVM as a preventitive solution. I am not criticizing since I also tried the stuff and even felt it worked when I had a cold. Also I am only hearing about risks for the first time today. As recently as yesterday I was convinced the drug was completely safe and possibly even harmless even in large doses! What a difference new information makes to a guys outlook. You have to understand that you are talking to a person who does not use shampoo or toothpaste though. I am extreme in my avoidance of health care products. What works really well is things like vinegar, lemon juice, natural soaps, baking soda and salts. Stuff our grandmothers would approve of.
Perhaps the safest way, as Sir Farmer says, is to let the body do its own thing, as it was designed to do.
So avoid ALL allopathic drugs and only if symptoms develop, like a flu, take stuff like ivermectin. Once symptoms subside, stop taking the drug.
This should also include avoiding any processed foods, as this destroys the gut biome.
Putting this another way, at what point do we learn that taking pills and injections to solve problems caused by pills and injections is folly?
Thanks Leo. Bottom line is what I see happening these days is a great number of people are self medicating using products they don’t fully understand and they are doing it on the advice of people they hear on the internet. I do not know if Ivermectin is safe or effective. Who is to say all this stuff is not making things worse? We are born with natural immunity and a host of good defences. Maybe Gods gifts are good enough without adding anything to the mix at all.
Have to chime in. Fully, for healthy gut bacteria, make sure you intake some of fermented, not from store bought food. Home made, sour craft, sour turnip, if you have Asian friend check for Natto. Home made kefir etc. If you buy in the store, probiotics are killed. You can make your own sour craft in couple weeks, check youtube. Also, for healthy gut bacteria, it is very beneficial some 3-5 days of fasting. Your liver and probably kidneys will thank you too.
About Ivermectin, there was one ‘study’ that I trust it most. All tyrants-wannabe and biggest world pharmas had a war against it and against the people mentioning it. This tells me all I need. And billions are taking it for decades wit hardly any side effects. This tells me a lot about this drug as well.
One more thing, we were always told, for bacteria, there are antibiotics. For viruses, there is nothing. Yet somehow this drug managed to help with several different viral infections.
I too tend to stay away from drugs and doctors as much as I can. But if I would get some viral infection, I wouldn’t mind taking it at that time.
About ‘studies’. Several decades ago, there was performed a study how fat is bad and since then first USA and soon followed whole worrld is now on low fat diet. Just look at your local grocery store. Study was paid for, to deliver exactly results it did. For a long time now, studies are sponsored and paid for by interested parties that want certain results.
Anyone who quotes studies now a days, need to look into funding of said study and where is funding coming generally for that research team. This author, Tim Truths is not doing this which is a shame and questions that ‘thruth’ part in my eyes.
Pharma governments were fighting with all their weapons against Ivermectin, since if there would be a cure, there would be no need for emergency poison shots. I can see few parties now sponsoring certain studies, that would be ‘prove’, that these innocent angels that were forcing us against our will, were just trying to protect us. So lets get few studies now. Why all these results are not happening to those countries, that their people are taking regularly Ivermectin? Isn’t this live, decade long study something we should look into? Wouldn’t results of people taking Ivermectin for decades be more important for some study conclusion, than some lab doing their own magic on mice for a few weeks?
I’m just using common sense here.
Yeah ok, deep research there. I suppose you knew Bill and Melinda Gates are contributing to funding free Ivermectin in Africa? Also that the World Health Organization and Merck are involved in distributing as much free Ivermectin as is needed under a program run by Mectizan Donations to eliminate river blindness? How about Gates involvement in trials on Ivermectin as a repurposed drug to fight Corona Virus? Also in Africa. They sure love Africans!
EGG ZACKLY
> Yeah ok, deep research there.
No need for sarcasm here, if we disagree. I never claimed any research, just using common sense. If hundred of millions of people are using this drug weekly for decades, shouldn’t there be some proof by now, if it is really so dangerous and deadly? It didn’t take long for clot shots to start showing bad effects, right?
I can’t comment on all Bill Gates is involved, first I don’t know everything is really true, there is lots of disinformation on the inet. And second, he does hides behind some ‘good work’ to have a cover for all the rest of the nefarious stuff he is involved.
I just post my two cents. If I rub you wrong way with my opinion (common sense helped me many times through my life, among other things avoiding these clot shots), I will be happy to refrain in the future from everything you will be posting, just to keep calm waters here 🙂
That being said, I treasure most of what you post.
Lol, no problem Buck. Don’t worry about it. There is nothing life threatening in this discussion so all comments are considered. I have my doubts that’s all. I have mentioned them before so its not a new thing. So many of the so-called Truthers are turning out to be controlled opposition. Bunch of rats. Playing to the crowds seeking solutions but directing them into harms way instead.
> So many of the so-called Truthers are turning out to be controlled opposition…
Yes, sadly this is noticeable trend. Must be lots of money and energy pouring into this
Tim Truth is a Psy-OP. He also posted on Bitchute. Avoid him like a plaque.
Are you sure about that? His videos are pretty thorough. He gets my seal of approval for asking the right questions. I didn’t notice him making any absolute claims in any event. Just offering up the research he had come across with personal opinion so its not like he’s forcing his viewpoint.
Good discussion guys
I am with you Buck…Common sense
NOT Everything the pharmazooticals produce is bad
I had super high blood pressure …tried natural remedies to no avail
Have been on a med derived from snake venom for 10 years with no ill effects but the blood pressure is normal
Same with an enlarged prostate…take a pill and can sleep thru the night without having to pee every half hour
Sometimes you just try something and it actually works
store bought sour kraut is not good for the gut?
> I had super high blood pressure
Me too. I was abusing my body for way to long. Doctor prescribed me medications. I asked for plan to slowly get of medications. He said, as high blood pressure you have, you will have them for the rest of your life. That’s when I got rid of this doctor and in less than one year I got rid of the pills. Blood pressure OK now. But I had to change my eating and living habits.
> store bought sour kraut is not good for the gut?
Well, your gut needs probiotic. Everything in stores is being heated to kill bacteria to prolong shelf life. So probiotics are gone. A very long time ago, before we got fridges, one way people were preserving food was through fermentation. So our bodies are used to fermented food packed with good bacteria. Only recently, all bacteria is being killed and our gut is not getting what it needs. By consuming home made fermented food, you will intake good bacteria. This is especially important, after every treatment with antibiotics. They kill most of the good bacteria. Naturally fermented food will help you much faster get gut bacteria in needed balance. Store bought sour craft is still good for you, but it is without probiotics and without good bacteria.
> Same with an enlarged prostate…take a pill and can sleep thru the night without having to pee every half hour
Curious, what are you taking for this?
Thanks Buck
Taking Sandoz Silodosin 8mg
Thanks Fully, I may need to look into this at some point.
A great discussion amongst fellow Goldtenters!
There is very little info available on “Tim Truth” – however – Mike Adams did interview him roughly 2 years ago. This might be of interest …
Tim Truth interviewed by the Health Ranger on covid masks, vaccines and unsolved mysteries
https://www.brighteon.com/c5e903b9-c905-487e-93fe-73732a30b7e9
Thanks everyone who weighed in on the topic. We briefly had a little heat but its nothing between friends and I really appreciate all of you. Lets keep an eye on this. There is more to the Ivermectin story than meets the eye and I certainly have fresh doubts at this point. The animal research linked in the article indicates this drug may be a neurotoxin and a possible sterilant. Effects on various animals range from mild to severe including death. Its a stretch to believe Ivermectin is as harmless as contrary papers are suggesting. Without a human study though its difficult to get at the extent of harm that may be caused if dosing is too high or done for extended periods of time. My thinking is its a good practice to err on the side of caution when there is doubt and therefore I would not entertain taking this medication as a preventative.
Stay safe people!