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Gold Doesn’t Need A Reason To Rise Significantly
It needs a very good reason not to though. I love simplicity, and the more you look at these cycles, the more convincing they are. You can ignore week to week, and month to month moves. The regular heartbeat of the gold and dollar market has continued unbroken for half a century. The dollar has topped and PMs have bottomed – that’s the simple message of these charts. Give me an explanation for this cycle breaking down for the first time in many decades. One that is strong enough to overturn and break such a long run of regular highs and lows. These 4, 8 and 16 year cycles aren’t a coincidence. The market forces and political forces that create them are very powerful. Bear in mind our exponentially rising debt burdon and the need to inflate it away before we are consumed by it (which, will end up destroying the currency anyway).
Uranium Resources
Not happy when I saw a noticeable hole in my portfolio. My account is showing zero for Uranium Resources. Apparently they have changed their name. Hope my money reappears at some point https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2017/08/21/1090559/0/en/Uranium-Resources-Changes-its-Name-to-Westwater-Resources-and-Announces-New-Chairman.html
Rambus Interview – An Observation
Fully posted a link earlier. I read it too fast and thought it was posted recently, but realised my mistake when I looked at his gold chart.It was published around about the time gold hit it’s $1050 low. In it he says…
‘Since gold has been in a bear market since 2011, the latest chart pattern that has formed is the two-plus years blue falling wedge, which I consider to be a halfway pattern to the downside when all is said and done. Just look at the left side of the chart during the bull market years when each consolidation pattern broke out to the upside. Now look at how our current bear market is unfolding opposite to the bull market. This is how markets work.
On a bullish note, gold could be forming the last consolidation pattern within this bear market. If the blue falling wedge breaks out to the downside, which I expect it will, this next impulse move down may very well complete the bear market. As you can see, I’ve labeled this four-year bear market as a possible bullish expanding falling wedge. You can compare this possible bullish expanding falling wedge to the same pattern that formed the low for gold during the 2008 crash — it’s the same pattern, just on a longer time-frame. Even though I’m bearish for the short-to-intermediate term, I can still see the bull market continuing when the top black rail of the potential bullish falling wedge gets broken to the upside.‘
He included these 2 charts…
As we now know, he was right to an extent. The dollar did breakout upwards, but (due to the long established, and predictable dollar cycle), it has come all the way back to where it started. He wasn’t right about gold though. The falling wedge didn’t break down, but up. It hasn’t proven to be a halfway pattern to the downside. Gold has risen over $200. I’m not entirely sure why gold didn’t fall a little further or at least stay around the $1000 mark for the rest of 2016. Like Rambus, I would’ve expected it to. The gold cycle would’ve certainly allowed it. At the time, I remember reading an article by ‘Zeal’ on the Market Oracle website, which demonstrated that whatever gold was going to do, the PM mining shares were at an ‘absurd low’ that just could not be maintained, and that the upside over coming years is huge. I did my own research and was convinced. I put all my savings into a a portfolio containing most of the HUI and GDX companies. HUI was about 120 at the time. It feels now, to me, that gold began it’s upward charge too early, and the weak action recently has been the result. You need all of the wind behind you. It’s like weather forecasting – to get a CAT5 Hurricane, rather than a tropical depression, you need all the causing factors to be in place, not just a few of them. This is EXACTLY the same. However, if I’m right, the long term cycles that I’ve been banging on about, are about to reassert themselves hastening the dollars continued fall, and bringing about golds renewed bull. Here are the gold and dollar charts, so you can see what happened after the Rambus post.
At the same time, we have geo-political tensions rising, we have a US president in ‘trouble’, we have a debt ceiling debarcle approaching, the stock market is euphoric, the national debt is off the scale and rising EXPONENTIALLY, the dollar cycle is in its declining phase and the gold cycle is in it’s rising phase.
A CAT5 hurricane is in danger of developing.
Beaten Down Gold Stocks
I’m positioned in a good number of Spocks Rocks, Uranium, 3D printers, base metals and some larger gold silver producers. I recently took a position in these 4 HUI constituent companies. Eyeballing the charts, they look potentially pretty good after taking a real beating. Buy low, sell high ? and, as always, do your own due diligence 😉
Are We Forgetting…
…That we already broke out of a very big chart pattern. The price action into this bullish, symmetrical triangle goes back about 20 years. The bigger the pattern, and the longer it takes to build out, the more significant a breakout is. Newsflash – we broke out already. Unless I’m missing something, and unless we see an ‘around the apex’ move down, this should mean the bull is on. The charts are talking to me again (I really should see someone about that).
Launchpad ?
So here we are in the $1270-$1290 area. Yesterdays pop was nice, and I got my little rocket out again (been hiding it away recently). Is it just me, or do you get the feeling that this is the final chance for gold to prove itself ? All the bullish charts I’ve posted, all the evidence I’ve shown – I fully acknowledge that it’s not impossible for me (and other bulls) to be wrong. If we’re right though, this is perfect timing. PM traders are about to return from their Summer sipping cocktails on some tropical beach. The SM is seeing signs of weakness if you look under the surface, the cycles are in our favour and $1300 is in touching distance. The time for talking is almost over. It’s a high volume surge and rocket launch for PM’s, or its crash and burn. On the launchpad, countdown is commencing…
Another Gold Roadmap
Still developing the fine detail, but this is roughly how I see things going. Don’t pay too much attention to the precise dollar gold targets, but somewhere $1500-$2500 by 2020. Im favouring closer to $2500. Possible sharp drop for a year or so then a final top in the mid 2020’s. Looking like TRIX will cross zero by the end of this year. That’s a major buy signal. As always, a large downside move, below support at the $1180 region negates all of this. Otherwise, I’m happy.
Stock Market And PM Prospects
After reading Plungers excellent article on Talk Markets, I had to have a rethink. I’m in broad agreement that the SM is in a precarious position. Decreasing volume and reliance on a handful of ‘mega stocks’ is not good. The market may have a rapid burst higher, but, in my view, it would be short-lived.
When considering the outlook for both the stock market and gold, you really do have to consider the ratio chart for the pair. It’s crucial, because it demonstrates whether one is overvalued or undervalued in relation to the other, and on a massive timescale. Up until the FED and Federal Reserve Bank came along, the pair traded in an up-trending channel and could be considered relatively stable. Post 1913 we saw much greater volatility, with successively higher highs and lower lows. Since 1913 we see a high in the ratio every 35/36 years. The first two lows in the sequence were approximately 45 years apart. If that repeats, we should see a low in the mid 2020’s. I’m reasonably confident in this because, as you can see in the chart, we haven’t hit the bottom support line yet, or even come close.
This is a ‘megaphone’ pattern, with a top resistance line trending to infinity (it’s a log chart), and the bottom line trending to zero. Interestingly, they tend to be bearish. This implies the ‘outcome’ is zero. In other words, gold is the ultimate winner. That’s not really very good, and a clear sign that within the next couple of cycles there will be a total collapse of our monetary system, unless a way can be found to stop this beast.
Back to the ratio chart. If the ratio does indeed move down to a low in the mid 2020’s , the chart indicates a value close to 1. There are a variety of ways it can happen. Gold stays where it is and the SM plummets from 22000 to 1300. The SM stays where it is and gold goes up to $23000. They meet somewhere in the middle. SM goes up, gold goes up a lot more. Gold falls and the SM falls even more. I think you see how it works.
Question is, which is most likely ? What do you think ? What is this chart telling us ? At the moment, I believe that whatever the mechanism, it’s gold that has a lot of catching up to do.
Credit to goldchartsrus.com – I’ve modified their original version to add the years of the highs and lows, along with the future projection.
Laying Down The Gauntlet
On a late Summers day, while the farmers make hay
we found a small spark, some light in the dark
that began to show us the way.
lines on the charts, that tug at your hearts –
gold will rise again, one day.
Well, according to my chart (copied again below), that day is pretty much here. So this is my challenge…
I have a chart which goes all the way back to the time the US came off the gold standard in the 1970’s. There is a ‘rule’ that you can apply to the chart for that entire duration that hasn’t ever been broken – when gold price moves from a blue line to the next red line (approx 3 years), the price rises and peaks at that red line. A move down, so that we are lower in 2020 than we are now would be the first time the rule has ever been broken. Anyone that thinks we are going to see prices fall  – show me a) Why this chart will fail for the first time ever, and, b) Show me an equivalent chart, going back 50 years that proves your point. It needs to not just suggest a lower price 2 years from now, but it needs to demonstrate that by moving lower it is somehow behaving in a way that has been demonstrated in the past. If this can’t be done it shows that we are either going up, as my chart suggests, or the next 2 years will be completely unprecedented in the history of the gold market post 1970’s.
I should say, that I’m not a bull, blinded by the glitter of PM’s – I’m trying to be pragmatic and consider all angles. I would appreciate finding a strong counter argument – the charts just aren’t giving it to me. I’ve read lots of bearish predictions, but haven’t found one that stacks up in terms of showing how this chart will get broken for the first time ever. In isolation, I can find things to suggest gold might go down, but only short term. It’s the price in 2020 versus todays price I’m interested in. So, come on, someone, pick up the gauntlet 🙂
Targets For 2020
Below you can see a chart similar to the one in my earlier post. This time, I’ve used vertical red lines to highlight the regular cycle highs, and blue lines to highlight the regular cycle lows. You’ll notice that for the last 50 years EVERY time we cross the blue line, (cycle lows) the %R (300) and TRIX turn up to confirm the coming price direction. All of the large price drops have happened in the process of moving from a red line to a blue line.
Price has gained EVERY time we’ve moved from a blue line to the next red line. We have just crossed a blue line. The worst price gain we’ve seen in this 3 year part of the cycle was in the mid 1990’s at 27%. Frequently we see gains of 60%, and occasionally a lot more. I think that around $1500 is a reasonable expectation. Any more would be a bonus.
I’m deliberately keeping the language/terminology simple – I hope I’m not coming across as condescending, but I want it to be as clear as possible. None of this gives us a 100% guarantee that price will go up, but it’s about as close as you can get. If price doesn’t advance from now until the cycle high in 2020, moving from the blue line we’ve just crossed, to the next red line, it’ll be the first and only time this pattern has been violated in the last 50 years. That must give us some degree of confidence. Of course, there’s always a first I suppose…
Yesterdays Chart – Important Points
- I posted the chart below yesterday. I’ve been asked a couple of questions here and elsewhere when I showed it. I just felt I needed to explain a couple of points. The main reason for this particular chart was because I have wondered for a while if the period around 1983/84 could be our current position. That’s mainly because visually it does look very similar on the chart. Analogs and fractals can look very convincing, but, as a scientist, I need to find supporting evidence. So I looked at all of the indicators, to see if there were similarities or differences.
To be honest, most aren’t very helpful on this 50 year timescale, but a couple were, especially if you fiddle with the settings, and alter the Wm%R to 300. So what we’re looking at is overbought/oversold conditions as they develop on a 300 day rolling basis. By extending out the time frame this way, you are getting rid of a lot of the daily/weekly ‘noise’ and focusing on the ‘main signal’ or trend. This main signal or trend is much more reliable and predictable, compared to daily and weekly direction changes. The TRIX on it’s standard setting seems to works pretty well on this timescale. TRIX is also an indicator of overbought/oversold conditions and shows how momentum is moving in a particular direction. I view both of these indicators on these timescales as giving us clues as to the overall ‘direction of travel’.
It’s long been known that markets have cycles. The thing is that price sometimes reacts strongly in a cycle, and sometimes the price movement is weak. Also, the peak and trough in a cycle can be biased to the left or right in relation to the expected peak. That’s not an excuse for it not always working perfectly, it’s an acknowledgement of the fact that the real world is messy and a not 100% predictable. Nonetheless, these cycles are very evident in the gold market. The peaks and troughs on an 8 yearly cycle going back to the 1970’s are as clear as day and 100% reliable – they haven’t failed, so they would need something MASSIVE to make them fail now.
So back to my reason for doing this. Are we in 1983/84 ? The chart says categorically that we are NOT. From the point of view of determining where we are in the pattern this is a killer chart in my view. We cannot be in a position even remotely comparable to 1983/84, and here’s why. In 83/84 we were on our way to a %R LOW and TRIX was FALLING. Today the %R low has just happened, we are on our way to the HIGH and the TRIX is RISING. That’s because of where we are in the cycle. Think for a minute – this cycle hasn’t failed in its entire 50 year span. If %R and TRIX were to turn down now, taking price with it, it would be the first time in 50 years and 6 cycles that this has ever happened. As I said, for me, this is the killer chart. It demonstrates a 50 year pattern that has repeated every 8 years. It doesn’t tell us where the price will be at the peaks and troughs, bit it does tell you WHEN your peaks and troughs will be. 2020 is our next peak, 2024 is our next trough (may be a very small one), and the following peak will be in 2028. That’s 9 years from now.
I would strongly suggest referring back to this in 2 years time and thinking about taking profits at the top in 2020. I’m going to go long again in 2024, and exit the market for the last time in 2028, when I’ll be 59 and ready to retire.
I’ve been asked what my price projection is for 2020. I’ll be posting fairly regularly on this over coming months, as my thoughts develop, but at the moment I’m favouring somewhere in the $2000-$2500 range. We’ll see how fast we start to rise, and then I’ll adjust my thoughts as new data comes in. I suspect that if I have to adjust my target, it will be upwards rather than downwards, but I’ll leave it there for now. Here’s that chart again…
Coincidentally, looking back at recent charts of mine, that 2024 trough and 2028 peak, agrees with one that I posted a short while ago. If it works out, we may be close to $3000 in 2020, dropping back to $2500 in 2024 and then $3500 in 2028. There are scenarios that take us a lot higher of course.
EDIT: Looking more closely at the dates, cycles, peaks and troughs, I would revise the troughs, or low points to 1985, 1993, 2001, 2009, 2017 and 2025.
As Close To A Guarantee As You Can Get – Gold Going UP
Study this one, very simple chart and let it sink in. The indicators are TRIX (18,9) and Wm%R(300). The following rules are true all the way back to the 1970’s….
1) Â %R peaks every 8 years
2) %R hits a low every 8 years
3) Just after the low, the new uptrend is confirmed by TRIX crossing from below zero to above zero. Price then moves UP.
We have just passed the %R bottom. TRIX Â has just crossed from below zero to above zero, giving us the confirmation of the price moving up into 2020.
This chart is screaming at us and there really can only be one outcome, otherwise the pattern all the way back to the 1970’s will be broken for the first time. How much simpler can it possibly get ?
Gold Bear ? Read This
A really good read. You probably know a lot of this already, but I think it’s great for keeping things in perspective https://seekingalpha.com/article/4097726-mother-resets-coming-gold-market
$9000 Too Much ?
Hi Goldtenters. My post on $9000 gold got a few responses yesterday, so I thought I’d follow it up with another scenario which needs watching. At this point I’m discounting any scenarios involving a move to $1000 (or less). My bullish bias has been well explained on my recent posts covering a variety of factors. I remain bullish until/unless the long term support near $1180 is challenged.
So, if we assume the direction of travel is up, and we discount the ‘parabolic’ $9000 target, where are we going ? I also recently posted in my ‘This Is NOT A Coincidence – $2470 Target For Gold’ that, using simple charting rules we get a target of $2470, which agrees exactly with the apparent gap that’s opened up between gold price and US Federal Government Debt when you overlay them on a graph. The CHF/USD ratio chart is also very strong evidence that PM’s will be moving up.
So far, so good. Ken S made a very good point on my post yesterday, and it’s also one I’ve posted before. There is also a case to suggest that we may be seeing gold price behavior similar to the mid 1980’s. At first glance, that might be disappointing, because there was nearly 20 years of ‘sideways’ action. On closer inspection, when price bottomed at $300 in early ’85, it then broke out and climbed 72% in 3 years, to a high of roughly $500.
If we consider $1300 to be a similar breakout today, a 72% move takes us to about $2200. That’s not too far away from my $2470 target. You could apply your 72% move from the $1050 bottom, I suppose, and that would give you roughly $1800. What does it all mean ? What I take away from this is that as we advance toward $2000 we need to be very wary, and alert to what happened back in the 80’s. I happen to believe that we’ll move much higher by the mid 2020’s. Nonetheless, I, for one, will be looking down as well as up, as we move forward.
The other recent charts I referred to as a reminder
For Ken S – More On My $9000 Target
Ken quite rightly asked me how my $9000 gold road map stacks up if you look much further back. I’ve posted this chart before, or at least one very similar. This is how I see it going back to the 1970’s, when we came off the gold standard. I view this as the second big bull market in a perpetual, ongoing, parabolic gold bull. Each successive bull will take us to a new order of magnitude. In the 1970′ s it was tens of dollars, in the 1980’s it was hundreds of dollars. Then came the long, protracted trading range. Now we have the next part of the bull, so far mirroring the first. We have just made it into the thousands of dollars, and by the end of this bull we will be close to adding another zero ($10,000). That’s the definition of exponential, so it’s not exactly surprising.
Points to note:
1) The gold cycle produces very marked, reliable lows in gold. We just had one.
2) Part 1 in the first bull move ended where I put the purple number 1. This is where we are once again.
3) You can see visually that this first bull move contains very similar sub-structures to our most recent one.
4) We’re expecting a breakout and move to a new point 2, as per the previous purple point 2. This time the target is around $9000
The Chartology Of $9000 Gold – My Roadmap
The repetition of the angles, breakouts, support and resistance is a thing of beauty. It really all goes back to the fact that we’re on a logarithmic path.
Stay long into the mid 2020’s, taking profits at the cyclical corrections. That’s the plan – lets see how it pans out (‘pans out’, quite appropriate for gold eh ?) 😉
Big Implications In This Chart
This (log) chart is telling us that, whatever the short term ups and downs, we’re on the verge of a huge, long term bull market.
Once TRIX is above zero and we’re climbing above and beyond $1300, it should be clear to everyone where we’re headed. 15 years since we were last in this position. This has to be the opportunity of a lifetime.
How Many More Bounces In This Triangle ?
Starting to feel like a game of pinball here and it’s certainly been the year of the triangle. How many more bounces do you think we can have before we hit the apex ? There are two triangles I’m watching. The one off the late 2016 lows…
Or, if that support is breached, the one with support drawn from the late 2015 lows…
As I say, I reckon an eventual upside resolution has around an 80% likelihood. The more I look at those 2 charts, the more I think a test of support on the larger triangle at around $1180 is likely – it just has a nice look and feel to it. I think it depends on a number of factors and whether gold/PM’s have to endure much of a headwind, or whether the commodity cycle and/or SM downturn kick in (along with a million other factors). The overarching theme of an over-extended SM, dollar decline and commodity upturn should steer us upwards though. The further and longer we stay at depressed values, the more violent the upturn will be (in my honest opinion).
Which Way Are We About To Break ? Clues From The Gold:Silver Ratio
The following chart is indexed to Zero in 2003. From that point, when the GSR goes down, silver is outperforming. This is typical in a PM bull, and is reflected in the rising gold price. When the GSR goes up, gold is outperforming. This happens in a PM bear because silver is a more thinly traded market and is prone to wild price swings. It over performs on the way up, and under performs on the way down. So where are we now ?
The GSR has been going up since 2011 (PM bear), and despite the 2016 rally, we are just now returning to a GSR ratio typical of a PM market bottom. This adds weight to my belief that the next BIG move will be up, not down.
Lets look at the GSR in more detail and add some trading indicators, to see if they can give clues. What we’re looking for is something that tells us we’re nearer to a bottom than a top in the PM market. Are the GSR indicators primed for a rise in the gold and silver market, or a drop ? Here’s the chart…
It’s very clear to me, that although we may see short term moves in either direction, the odds are stacked in favour of the next BIG move being an UPSIDE breakout. This is not 100% of course – indicators can remain high (or low) for extended periods. However, at these levels, the odds of an upside breakout are much higher than a downside one.