Loading ...Will SCOTUS even take the case, and if so, then what?
“since there are no charts today anyhow…”
Hmmm … can two play that game?
I’ve been looking for an article that considers what SCOTUS is facing …
whether they will even ACCEPT the Texas case,
and if so, how they will proceed ….
IMO, this is an ABSOLUTELY TITANIC matter … HISTORIC ….
The link covers part of the first question … the comments … loads of them … are consistently interesting and worth the time for those interested … multiple pages of them … yes, red state bias.
tamkae • 4 hours ago • edited
The Supreme Court exists to make sure the Constitution is followed and adhered to. If they refuse to take this case or find that what these 4 states did when they didn’t follow their Constitutions is okay with them, then the Court will show themselves to be forever lost in their purpose.
—The important part of this case being brought to the Supreme Court is not about any fraud that might have been perpetrated during the counting of the ballots. This is about the US Constitution, which says that the states’ legislative bodies are to lay out the laws regarding election procedures. And this is about 4 states whose state constitutions were set up with laws that lay out a particular procedure that their state has to follow in order to change their election processes. These 4 states did not follow their state constitutional laws regarding the changes they made in their election procedures; instead, election officials and governors ordered the various changes without going through the steps that are specified in their state constitutions.
—If government people can change election procedures without following the state constitutional requirements, which in turn, goes against what the US Constitution ordered them to do, then we will no longer have a country based on Constitutional principles. This question is the important heart of what is at stake and why this case is so important.
minister_of_war Dana Pico • 4 hours ago • edited
If Kamala Harris ascends to the Presidency in such a manner, she will get to nominate someone for Vice President, true. But Democrats wouldn’t have the votes to confirm that Vice Presidential nominee (especially with a missing Kamala vote in the Senate & no replacement yet seated or sworn in). A more likely scenario, but still extremely far fetched, is that Biden gets the votes in the House to become President, but Kamala doesn’t get the votes in the Senate to become VP as Pence would be the tiebreaking vote, so he could just vote for himself as VP; maintain his status as President of the US Senate. [pdl: then Hunter investigation forces Joe to step down?]
I think I remember that the issue of ballots being sent to everyone has been taken up by the individual state supreme courts and they have approved them. Is that correct? If that is the case, wouldn’t the logical and more straight forward path be for someone in the state itself to challenge the state supreme court decision and take it to the US supreme court? I don’t believe this has been done on the same grounds that Texas is alleging. They have used other arguments, but not this one. It seems very irregular for one state to challenge another state for not following its own rules, instead of one of its own residents.
The 4 states did not only not follow their own rules they didn’t follow the US Constitution which states only the Legislatures can change election rules ….NOT the Governors or Sec of States or Election “officials”
But You know what…This is so convoluted that whatever happens will likely be a political decision and not necessarily a Constitutional decision…for better or for worse.
Whatever happens 50% of the Country will be very pissed.
ZH seems for practical purposes defunct.* I may need to spend more time here again.
The US Supreme Court I think is in a pickle. It is going to be hard for anyone to take it seriously if it doesn’t take the case immediately – and issuing at least some ruling fast. It’s an urgent dispute between states over highly critical material. I’m no lawyer, but I don’t have to be a lawyer to see this point. If they don’t take it, I don’t know what use they have other than going on the Ellen deG show for getting hugs or selling brands of laundry detergent.
Once they get it they are in greater trouble because they actually have to decide something. There may be all sorts of blackmail and threats. From my understanding there is a certain amount of ambiguity, but one way or another justices who play it fairly straight may have to have to push it to the US House to consider. I frankly think that even the so-called conservatives may end up being too wimpy. They might want Sotomayer to hold their hand or something like that, and she might surprise people. More likely they are frantically going to try to figure out some sort of unworkable compromise. Maybe we’ll see 9 justices admitting themselves to the hospital for alleged COVID-19 and the -20, which will have complications until around April or May.
* If the proprietors of this website had more time and resources than they probably have they might try to fill ZH’s niche. The difference is that they should cut the Fight Club crap. Why have puerile invective based on a Hollywood product based on some culty novel? Much better to invite cross-fertilization from multiple perspectives using as much politeness and elegance of manners as possible for expressing thoughtful comments. (Except that I would be invited to be as exceptionally rude as possible.)
I think Fully should take that as a complement!
And I’ve also been meaning to complement him on the range of posts we’ve been seeing lately.
Unfortunately, they seem to be appearing mostly before and after the trading session. LOL. In between during the day session, it gets slower. ;-]
But … if you have the interest .. the sites where these posts are coming from can provide the alternative to ZH. I personally now have 50 or so “pages” of posts from alternative sources, all collated at one RSS feed app. Which also means I see newer stuff quickly, from wherever.
FWIW I won’t be shy about my opinion on the election. I don’t know the law or how things will be done, but I am convinced Trump won by a landslide as far as votes cast. I wish there were a way for a re-vote with supervised paper ballots and counting – such that all could be seen by the public.
I also wish that the “Democratic” primary could be redone, but that’s far less likely. So remarkable that the “D” voters aren’t screaming.
If you think the Dems should be screaming (they should), even more should be if they ever wake up to this:
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2020/12/11/is-this-why-the-media-is-suddenly-reporting-on-hunter-bidens-corruption/
To Chartmaster, as I don’t see a way to reply to you beneath your post.
It appears you didn’t read the article at TBP. I presume nothing of the sort; this is their play to dump Biden and move HeelsUp into the west wing.
You are presuming the Dems step up and do the right thing. They never do. In the face of any of their members breaking the law(Bill Cinton, Hillary, Obama, this Sprawlwell guy, etc. etc. they just try to sweep it under the rug or say it is “Russian disinformation.” What they may be doing here in finally letting out the Hunter info is they realize the level of proof on the election fraud is so massive that they are not getting Biden as Pres. Even if Supremes give a watered down ruling that doesn’t overturn the election, it is going to go to states to appoint new electors or the state delegegations in Congress to choose a President. Either of those choose Trump.
Welcome Back Karl
We Missed You
Plus 1 to the above comment.
🙂
Anyone seriously interested in this topic MUST READ THE COMMENTS at the article.
There are plenty of throwaways, yes. But also an abundance of great insights.
Well beyond anything from even a single attorney opining on this.
I agree PD. The constitution has been ignored frequently over these past decades. This time, however, most of the public will understand the level of corruption that has engulfed their entire political and economic system. The fraud will be exposed just as the elite are attempting the biggest heist in history. Are we to believe that the home of the brave and the land of the free will go quietly into that good night, or will they burn and rave at the closing of their day?