QUESTION FOR THE TENT
IF A WORLD WIDE COMMUNIST TAKEOVER IS IMMINENT .
IF SCHWAB AND THE BOYS ARE ORCHESTRATING A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT AND ALL PROPERTY IS TO BE OWNED BY THE STATE IN EXCHANGE FOR DEBT FORGIVENESS
HOW COME THE STOCK MARKETS ARE SOARING ?
STOCK MARKETS ARE FORWARD LOOKING ( 6 TO 12 MONTHS) IT IS SAID
IF CAPITALISM IS DEAD AND COMMUNISM HAS WON …HOW COME THE MARKETS ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE STRONG ?
I submit from a contrarian perspective that with all this gloom and doom somehow someway the opposite is true.
With trillions of dollars in stimulus recently added to the global economy, a lot of that will find its way into the market. With interest rates at zero or below, where else can it go? The sheer magnitude of the stimulus, temporarily at least, overrides any long term vision. Lot of words to just say “Don’t fight the Fed.”
If the world were about to end and everything come crashing down like Klaus is proposing don’t you think the market Movers and shakers would be pulling their wealth out of markets and waiting for the crash to buy everything for pennies on the dollar ?
Communism hasn’t won, but fascism might.
What’s the difference ?
Real Question
LOL…I agree, there isn’t much difference, for us normies. I don’t see Bill Gates or Mr. Twitter giving up their ownership of anything.
What’s the proper price of Apple, denominated in confetti?
I think I have a partial answer for you Fully. What is going to happen is that the bond market will start coming back down to Earth. Recall, the problem is unrepayable debt. Mountains of it. And when the default cycle gets going then rates will begin to rise and bonds will fall.
Thus capital is already shifting into the only really safe refuge that will be available which is the stock market.
The DJIA has an easily projected high exceeding 39,000 anyway at which point it will also correct but that could be some time off. The other thing is that money (wealth) is not going to die in a Socialized world. Keep in mind who owns the majority of the stock market. It’s not the bottom 95% of the population. That segment has virtually all its wealth tied up in one single asset which is the family home and maybe a lakeside cottage.
So what will shift to the state is going to be the one asset that the majority owns, not the share market which is mostly controlled by the few percent. If you want to get through this thing and survive to the other side you should sell your house and buy the S&P or mining stock or whatever gets you excited.
Stocks will survive intact and not be part of the asset based absorbed into the governments balance sheet. To do so would be to attack the very same people who are behind this great reset. And that is unlikely to happen. Real property on the other hand is doomed. Just like all other examples of socialist / communist states. They need to back their monetary system with something tangible but its going to be in the form of lands, apartments, homes, farms and certain business……but not equities.
Ultimately, the holders of shares which underly the companies that survive will become the real Barons of the new economic system. Don’t you ever just ask yourself why Elon Musk is selling all his houses and putting his cash into the market instead? It’s because he knows what’s coming and is getting out now.
If you take away peoples homes and farms, you will certainly have your revolution.
Anyone touches my Ass gets a groinfull of buckshot
You would think so. But look at all the countries that have already gone down that road and there was no rebellion for decades after their property was taken over by the state. There are a lot of examples. The model is pretty well established by now.
The small and midsized Public Traded Companies that make up the stock markets… hundreds of thousands of them are leveraged ( have debt)
So if a debt jubilee is forced and the debt forgiven with forfiture of property..these companies are liquidated and become Government property
ALL the mining companies for instance …No more small and mid sized companies …all work for the state if Communism is to rule.
I don’t percieve anybody running these companies see that as a possibility.
Maybe they need to read Time magazine and Goldtent
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In the new Green World, open pit mining could be outlawed altogether. Think about what that will do for the price of copper, gold, silver and whatever else needs a big strip operation before it can be brought to market. Remember, this is all abut changing the planet so something is preserved for the next generations. And massive open pits don’t fit that agenda anymore.
Sure, they were good for a bustling planet bursting at the seems with endless needs for freshly dug metals.
But turn down the economic activity to nuthin (like what is happening now) and both industrial and manufacturing demand plummets with reduced consumption. We won’t live in a world where every single household needs its own washer and dryer anymore. We will rent when we need them (it’s called a Laundromat). That is one of my interpretations of Klaus Schwabbs assertions where ownership of private property is concerned.
It means we are heading into a sharing economy. A socialized economy.
And just take that crazy idea and spread it thick across the globe and you will quickly see that what the Reset is partly about is the end of the consumption economy itself. And yes, I know that sounds absurd at first blush because living in a consumption economy is what makes America and Canada great. It’s what made a lot of people proud. But we buyers in the West have just gone mad on some levels and this endless cycle of wasteful consumption is truly wreaking havoc on the entire planet.
Our garages, attics and basements are already full to bursting with all the crap we bought from years before but we still keep buying more. And we don’t need any of it. Nobody does. You can’t sell it either since there are no buyers for all those old TV’s, toaster ovens, spare tires, pool tables and Nintendo’s. Nobody wants that stuff. They have their own pile of junk already. Even charities won’t pick it up when you offer it for free.
So where does it go? To the dump of course. And that is exactly part of the problem. Deindustrialization (which is what is taking place right now) is intended to reduce supply, increase prices and put a great many of the cheap products of today out of reach of the average person. It’s intention is to dampen consumer lust and the wastefulness that accompanies those urges. We are going to learn to really value the stuff we still own as the cheap manufactures of today become a thing of the past.
So how can I be so sure about all this? Well just look objectively at what is taking place. People across the globe have been bribed with their own money (tax money) to stay home and produce absolutely nothing. In the process we are facing a scorched Earth outcome where tens of thousands of retail outlets, factories and small business are being permanently closed down. Millions upon millions of jobs are also being destroyed right in front of our eyes.
Those plants will not ever reopen in many cases and the jobs will not ever return. That’s what happens in a just-in-time world where every producer and manufacturer was just a few months away from insolvency exactly in the same way untold numbers of North Americans were also living just a paycheque away from a financial crisis.
It takes capital to get a plant set up. It takes consumers with money and credit to create a customer base. It takes a supply chain of parts and services and advertising to keep it all lubed up and ready to roll. But when a shut down like we are witnessing comes along it punches massive holes in the hull of the consumer machinery to the extent that the ship itself is at risk of capsizing and sinking. So the guys in China making all that tinsel and ball point pens and spare parts and dollar store stuff lose their jobs and their factory goes bust, an empty space appears on a shelf in another country. Then a lot of empty spaces. Then the store closes down too.
That’s how the desired inflation will be created even as commercialism gets punched in the teeth. Reduced supply meets up with strong demand. But Communist structures are not responsive to consumer needs. So instead we see widespread shortfalls and fast rising prices. Thrift is once again rewarded as those who can save are those who can still consume. I wish I was just making this all up but I am not. I have lived in a Communist country for many years and I can tell you a few things about it. They are inflexible and out of touch with what people want and need.
And shortages are both chronic and rampant. Get used to those ideas. They will figure big in the future.
First of all even though the world wide takeover is their goal, it hasn’t happened yet. Second, even if it does it will take some time to accomplish and third even if it were to happen relatively soon, that is why the stock market is making new highs until between now and year end. The holders of stocks will all be selling on the first trading day of the New year to delay the taxes to be paid until 2022.
I think its going to happen faster than you imagine. The crash is already written into the charts. You can see it coming when you look at something like “US Household Net Worth to GDP”. I will get that chart up later if I have time. But to my way of reading it that thing is going to top-out next year and crash in 2022. For that matter things could get pretty ugly pretty fast since these trillions of dollars being sprayed around at everyone in order to keep us all calm as the global supply chain is getting slowly smothered, will not last. If anyone thinks that Governements will keep dishing out benefits at the rate they have been doing recently is in for a rude surprise. First the crash, then the new benfits schedule. And I will bet its a whole lot smaller than what has been seen until now. This current generosity is only a tool to pacify the masses while the agenda is being carried out. It will come to an end and smaller benefits will come in its place. By then there will be no going back to our old ways. The jobs will be gone. The old economy will be gone. Isn’t this obvious to everyone? There is going to be an economic crisis that sends Household Net Worth back to levels not seen since the 1970’s and in the process almost everyone will be softened up and more compliant and cooperative than they are now. I am not even trying to be mean by saying that but when I throw the chicken bones against the basement wall and read the scatter it all looks obvious as hell. And I am not saying its good either btw, only that as time passes the strategy is becoming apparent. They keep telling us that nothing will ever be the same again. I think we should take them on their word because based on what has transpired so far, they are not kidding around.
I’m not sure if you have all the particulars right, Farmer, but I think you have the plan down. They’ll succeed in doing a lot of damage, but they won’t succeed with their plan. Neither the west’s population nor China, Russia and India want anything to do with this insanity. Most of the world will laugh as we wreck our economy. European leadership is polluted with arrogant elites who have destroyed their economy. Unfortunately, American leaders are of a similar sort. Guys like Gates, Tweetburger and the Facebook clown are ignorant fools who pretend their wealth has given them wisdom. Unlike in the past, western leaders are uneducated fools. I’m quite sure the rest of the world is operating under the principle that it would be unwise to interfere while their enemy destroys itself!