GA – a poll worker comments on hand counting
my brief take on its (in)significance, and then
a GA poll worker provides a more detailed assessment.
or
“What can we do to make it look like we are advancing voting integrity without really doing anything meaningful at all?”
pedro – Sat, Sep 21, 2024 – 02:48 PM
Making sure e votes and actual ballots agree in number does NOTHING to make sure the ballots themselves are legit.
In person with IDs solves part of it. (But doesn’t check citizenship)
Mail ins with Signature validation, address validation, and records to check voters using each address …. are just a beginning.
I also STILL don’t see a way to back out illegal votes from totals should problems only be discovered AFTER they already cast a ballot/vote.
Georgia – To hand count ballots …
“BC” – Sat, Sep 21, 2024 – 05:10 PM
Georgia poll worker here. Just finished poll clerk training for this election cycle. Nothing concerning the manual counting of ballots was communicated to us.
So, if the SoS is going to implement this he is going to do it on the fly and probably in a haphazard manner – possibly through the poll managers during advanced in person voting as well as 11/5.
Also, even if we do ensure the paper counts match the scanner counters we no longer stack voter certificates by party (enabling the poll manager to tell how many of each party voted at the end of the day). They are now generated by the new poll pad printer and stapled together, regardless of party, into stacks of 50 with a blue cover sheet.
What about mail in ballots? While the GA absentee ballot request requires that you be registered with the state and that you provide approved GA photo IDs, nevertheless, [A] I know of no mechanism to ensure those received by the USPS ever get to the county voter commission office and [B] nor do I know of a mechanism to ensure those that are received are cross referenced to prove they are valid.
Worse, Dominion voting is very much alive and well in GA. Plenty of ways still exist to circumvent/alter the transfer of electronic data.
Until GA goes to reliable (i.e. open to 3rd party inspection) voter ID and registration systems, with cross party hand counted paper ballots, there will be plenty of doubt as to the integrity of the results.
“What Georgia election rule 183-1-12 does through the hand count is stop the issue of scanning a ballot more than once to count a single ballot (or batch of ballots) as multiple votes of the batch. One ballot, one vote, one voter, match the counts and easy peasy.
If you count 100 one-dollar bills, you should have $100. However, if you count 100 one-dollar bills and your sales report shows $500 sold there’s a problem. Ballots are the same.”
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/09/21/simple-basic-georgia-election-ballot-rule-sends-left-wing-activists-into-apoplexy