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Israel has permanently lost the argument
Caitlin Johnstone
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Thu, 26 Oct 2023 00:00 UTC
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I’m sorry if this makes me an evil terrorist-loving baby-raping sieg-heiling Nazi, but in my humble opinion genocidal massacres are bad.
Edit : Snip from article in the first comment
Israel and its allies get away with a lot by marketing this as a “war”. It’s not a war. Israel launches high-tech military explosives at civilian buildings in a huge concentration camp while Hamas fires back with glorified fireworks which do light property damage. That’s not a war, it’s a massacre.
I was upset when I saw that Israel has killed seven thousand people in its Gaza bombing campaign but then a really smart Israel apologist told me Hamas might be exaggerating those numbers and maybe it’s more like four thousand, so now I think it’s fine.
What kind of drooling, knuckle-dragging, tapioca-brained moron can look at the satellite images of the damage caused by Israeli airstrikes and believe Gaza is lying about its death toll?
Look it’s very simple: if your words say “we’re not targeting civilians we’re targeting Hamas” but your actions say you’re inflicting siege warfare on the civilian population and carpet bombing entire city blocks into rubble, then you’re not really targeting Hamas.
Israel-Palestine is a very complicated, confusing, highly nuanced debate between those who think murdering thousands of children is fine and those who do not.
This is a very complicated genocidal massacre. Most complicated genocidal massacre in the history of genocidal massacres. There’s two sides to this genocidal massacre. This genocidal massacre requires nuance.
Normal person: Israel is killing children by the thousands as we speak
Crazy person: WHY AREN’T YOU CONDEMNING HAMAS??
Israel apologists are the worst. The absolute worst. I’ve sparred with countless political factions over the years, and I’ve never encountered a group so profoundly morally bankrupt and psychologically malformed. They’re so awful that their apologia actually hurts Israel’s image. Nothing will reassure you of the moral correctness of your opposition to Israel faster than interacting with Israel apologists online.
It keeps surprising me that Israel apologists still expect to be taken seriously. Israel is massacring children by the thousands and turning Gaza into rubble and they still expect you to listen to them receptively when they defend its actions. It’s actually starting to get morbidly fascinating.
In the old days murderous thugs just grabbed whatever land they wanted and killed anyone who tried to stop them. That still happens today too, but now the thugs have to make up liberal-sounding, sympathy-pulling justifications for it, like “spreading freedom and democracy” or “Israel has a right to defend itself.”
Israel has lost the argument. Permanently. There’s no coming back from this.
I cannot adequately express the immensity of my respect for the many, many, many Jewish voices I’ve seen taking a firm and forceful stand against the Gaza massacre. I’m just over here getting yelled at by strangers online and I find it pretty intense; you’re having much harder arguments with family, with friends, with people you’ve known your whole lives, about something that probably feels a lot more personal for you. You’re out there protesting, taking action and moving the needle, typically with far more skill and incisiveness than anyone else in the world. Big, big, big-hearted love to all of you. You amaze me.
Genocide is bad no matter who the perpetrator is.
As always, the super-rich set up the conflicts and the people suffer.
And then there are the jabs; a different kind of genocide.
What they are doing over there is one of the most terrible things that this world has seen since the darkest days of World War II. We understand there is propaganda on both sides. But we also realize this is not truly a war. Its a situation of an enraged and deranged bully destroying their enemy and getting the whole world onside to agree with the vicious assault.
They are killing chidren. Women. Babies….and some soldiers. What are they thinking? God will never forgive them for what they are doing. Like all things generated by this Satanic cult of the New World Order this must be their greatest obscenity. We cannot sit back and agree. The UN must step in and stop what is happening before it goes any further.
But lets not blame Israelis. Like America, this attack is being driven by a corrupt leadership that listens to nobody but their own inner circle of equally corrupt cronies. The people themselves have little say over these events or the actions being taken to harm another society and cause a genocide.
Nothing condones what is happening in Middle East. It is outright slaughter that will go back and forth without end with one side outgunned by the other. A complete disaster with the World taking sides. WW3 anyone?
This conflict has deep roots which are very complex. Biblical times even.
From the Russian Pogroms, to Zionism, the Balfour Declaration, League of Nations, the Palestine Partition, UN Declaration, formation of the State of Israel, all the subsequent wars back and forth to today.
This is generational. The origins are no longer known by those alive and the hatred lives on while at one time the two groups lived in relative harmony as brothers.
I don’t believe there is a solution that will be amenable to both sides.
The Great Powers after the Fall of the Ottoman Empire really f**ked things up likely to have a foothold in the Middle East and it got out of hand.