From an EW board with registration requirement … nice overview
Thanks for the extended response, and I’ll try (or others may, as I am hardly the only one to answer you, unrequited, on this topic in that and other threads) to give a reply worth all our time. I’ll just start here at the beginning, but actually hope this is to be a Forum discussion, not just a thing between you and me alone. Your discussion with Boss on the EVs / climate change stuff elicited responses from a number of Board members, but alas, none were answered by either.
The information source problem is non-trivial, that’s for sure. I’m sorry to say it isn’t curable in a day, took me a number of years and it’s an ongoing, changing landscape. Bottom line, places that don’t set off my BS or illogic spidey-senses, give me hard, verifiable facts – as opposed to editorializing ‘reports’ and spin-words with much info missing – are my go-to first choices, but hardly my last, and I have learnt the hard way that a great site once does not always remain so.
For instance, the Drudge Report used to be a tremendously useful and unbiased compendium of important headlines and links from diverse (not just non-US but non-thought/viewpoint conforming) sources, but it became a cesspool of unending propaganda years ago, with all the diversity of thought and viewpoints one might find in a BLM or Iranian mullahs’ meeting. Breitbart started off very well, became Republican. Beh.
I can tell you what I do: look at as many sources as I can (foreign as well as domestic) and do my best to separate fact from spin and fiction. This involves not only considering the source and its typical bent (if it has an identifiable one), but how close they come in any given ‘report’ or editorializing to verifiable fact (e.g. actual video of Zelensky or Putin speech with text from the same source, or a pdf of a ruling by a judge, suspicious if they insert ‘Texas’ judge or ‘Obama-appointed’ judge in the headline or text, etc.). I don’t need my ‘news’ artificially flavored or pre-chewed.
Domestically, there are some (e.g. NYT, WashPo, ABCBSMSCNNBC, Wikipedia, Politico, Bloomberg) that are, and have been for some for some decades, dependably heavy Narrative (globalism, WEF stuff) pushers – these days ‘Left’ [Left Wing of the Uniparty], which is nowadays typically also ‘Dem’- and ‘RINO’-biased – but they almost always contains nuggets of truth buried under the spin and one must separate the wheat from the chaff, and what they leave out is is if not more important than what they include. Very importantly, these sources typically serve one arm or another of the Fourth Branch (Deep State) in this country, which means that even their ‘spin’ or ‘lies’ are informative.
Btw, sundance at CTH has a long and growing body of evidence actually connecting which of these outlets serve which arm of the Fourth Branch and for what purposes. I haven’t delved deeply enough to endorse or gainsay it, but the patterns he describe certainly are evident once realized.
There are some (e.g. Breitbart, Daily Wire, Newsmax, Townhall, Federalist) that are rather dependably Republican (i.e. Establishment Republican = GOPe = Right Wing of the Uniparty, NOT ‘conservative’ and certainly not ‘libertarian’), and the same filter applies: much truth appears therein under some rather egregious spin, and what they leave out is important to know. Same filtering is required, though the overarching Narrative NEVER favors the taling points of the GOPe (smaller Fedzilla and smaller gubmint footprint generally, true Federalism, individual autonomy including of each person’s body).
There are some (inter alia formerly CNN, currently FoxNews, GB News) that are a mixed bag – Tucker Carlson is part-libertarian, part-GOPe, Sean Hannity is a Republican shill, but FoxNews itself is about as ‘conservative’ as Mario Cuomo. Mark Steyn (GB News) used to be fairly ‘libertarian’ but the Ukraine thing has driven him wholly neocon, and the GB News Desk, like that at Fox, is as much Narrative as anything.
Finally, there are some (e.g. TheConservativeTreehouse, Martin Armstrong) that often reach conclusions similar to my own evolving views but by different paths, with info I didn’t know, and yet there are still filters needed. Sundance (the main author at CTH) thinks Trump is God’s Gift to Freedom and a White Knight, so in my eyes has a bit of a blinder on, but is extremely well-connected and informed. His write-ups are typically stunning in their insight and thoroughness, as he considers all sides and presents (then skewers) them, juxtaposes his own independently-gathered info, and connects dots that seem obvious if not brilliantonly in retrospect. Armstrong is also far more connected and informed than I am, and I learn a lot of specifics from his videos and writings, but he is married to his computer AI Socrates and I’m not ‘there’ yet, if I ever will be.
Algos and AIs, shudder, but a long string of being right on things going back years is not to be dismissed out of hand.
Hope that helps. What you wrote regarding just Kleinsmith, Strzock and Paige derives from grievous lack of research / knowledge, and that’s meant only as a caution that surface reviews rarely afford a complete picture or understanding of what a given action (Strzok fired, for instance) actually means.
Look into his involvement in the persecution and defamation of Michael Flynn, for instance, don’t just focus on Trump because he’s a blip – BIG blip – but not the whole ball of wax.
From an EW board with registration requirement … nice overview
Thanks for the extended response, and I’ll try (or others may, as I am hardly the only one to answer you, unrequited, on this topic in that and other threads) to give a reply worth all our time. I’ll just start here at the beginning, but actually hope this is to be a Forum discussion, not just a thing between you and me alone. Your discussion with Boss on the EVs / climate change stuff elicited responses from a number of Board members, but alas, none were answered by either.
The information source problem is non-trivial, that’s for sure. I’m sorry to say it isn’t curable in a day, took me a number of years and it’s an ongoing, changing landscape. Bottom line, places that don’t set off my BS or illogic spidey-senses, give me hard, verifiable facts – as opposed to editorializing ‘reports’ and spin-words with much info missing – are my go-to first choices, but hardly my last, and I have learnt the hard way that a great site once does not always remain so.
For instance, the Drudge Report used to be a tremendously useful and unbiased compendium of important headlines and links from diverse (not just non-US but non-thought/viewpoint conforming) sources, but it became a cesspool of unending propaganda years ago, with all the diversity of thought and viewpoints one might find in a BLM or Iranian mullahs’ meeting. Breitbart started off very well, became Republican. Beh.
I can tell you what I do: look at as many sources as I can (foreign as well as domestic) and do my best to separate fact from spin and fiction. This involves not only considering the source and its typical bent (if it has an identifiable one), but how close they come in any given ‘report’ or editorializing to verifiable fact (e.g. actual video of Zelensky or Putin speech with text from the same source, or a pdf of a ruling by a judge, suspicious if they insert ‘Texas’ judge or ‘Obama-appointed’ judge in the headline or text, etc.). I don’t need my ‘news’ artificially flavored or pre-chewed.
Domestically, there are some (e.g. NYT, WashPo, ABCBSMSCNNBC, Wikipedia, Politico, Bloomberg) that are, and have been for some for some decades, dependably heavy Narrative (globalism, WEF stuff) pushers – these days ‘Left’ [Left Wing of the Uniparty], which is nowadays typically also ‘Dem’- and ‘RINO’-biased – but they almost always contains nuggets of truth buried under the spin and one must separate the wheat from the chaff, and what they leave out is is if not more important than what they include. Very importantly, these sources typically serve one arm or another of the Fourth Branch (Deep State) in this country, which means that even their ‘spin’ or ‘lies’ are informative.
Btw, sundance at CTH has a long and growing body of evidence actually connecting which of these outlets serve which arm of the Fourth Branch and for what purposes. I haven’t delved deeply enough to endorse or gainsay it, but the patterns he describe certainly are evident once realized.
There are some (e.g. Breitbart, Daily Wire, Newsmax, Townhall, Federalist) that are rather dependably Republican (i.e. Establishment Republican = GOPe = Right Wing of the Uniparty, NOT ‘conservative’ and certainly not ‘libertarian’), and the same filter applies: much truth appears therein under some rather egregious spin, and what they leave out is important to know. Same filtering is required, though the overarching Narrative NEVER favors the taling points of the GOPe (smaller Fedzilla and smaller gubmint footprint generally, true Federalism, individual autonomy including of each person’s body).
There are some (inter alia formerly CNN, currently FoxNews, GB News) that are a mixed bag – Tucker Carlson is part-libertarian, part-GOPe, Sean Hannity is a Republican shill, but FoxNews itself is about as ‘conservative’ as Mario Cuomo. Mark Steyn (GB News) used to be fairly ‘libertarian’ but the Ukraine thing has driven him wholly neocon, and the GB News Desk, like that at Fox, is as much Narrative as anything.
Finally, there are some (e.g. TheConservativeTreehouse, Martin Armstrong) that often reach conclusions similar to my own evolving views but by different paths, with info I didn’t know, and yet there are still filters needed. Sundance (the main author at CTH) thinks Trump is God’s Gift to Freedom and a White Knight, so in my eyes has a bit of a blinder on, but is extremely well-connected and informed. His write-ups are typically stunning in their insight and thoroughness, as he considers all sides and presents (then skewers) them, juxtaposes his own independently-gathered info, and connects dots that seem obvious if not brilliantonly in retrospect. Armstrong is also far more connected and informed than I am, and I learn a lot of specifics from his videos and writings, but he is married to his computer AI Socrates and I’m not ‘there’ yet, if I ever will be.
Algos and AIs, shudder, but a long string of being right on things going back years is not to be dismissed out of hand.
Hope that helps. What you wrote regarding just Kleinsmith, Strzock and Paige derives from grievous lack of research / knowledge, and that’s meant only as a caution that surface reviews rarely afford a complete picture or understanding of what a given action (Strzok fired, for instance) actually means.
Look into his involvement in the persecution and defamation of Michael Flynn, for instance, don’t just focus on Trump because he’s a blip – BIG blip – but not the whole ball of wax.
Cheers, more later.
Interesting and useful information there …thanks pedro