interesting golden THOUGHTS! of ANOTHER resurface
Anybody remember ANOTHER?
The current situation with Russia has prompted the circulation on twitter (https://twitter.com/mrwebber4/status/1497894967884365824) of the below part of the interesting message by a “Mr. Allen”, published by ANOTHER (THOUGHTS!) on Sat Mar 07 1998 13:19 (source: http://www.goldchartsrus.com/papers/ANOTHER1.php). Crazy? Or possible? You decide. As written in the twitter post, “Just change prices to current, and Saudi to Russia:”
I’m not sure that it would be necessary to have that large a cabul in on the “offer” of oil for gold. Given the rather small market in gold in comparison to oil/currencies it would only take one or two well endowed oil states to pull this off. Here’s why.
Let’s say the Saudi’s have been accumulating gold through the back door ( approx. 5,000 tonnes ) . They sell say 20 Mln Bbl oil a day. Close enough. At one ounce of gold per thousand Bbl oil that’s 10,000 ounces of physical gold per day. That’s a lot of physical gold.
The first few moments after the Saudi’s proposal to trade oil for gold at a very steep discount of 1000 Bbl/oz ( approx. 1.5% of current US$ price ) there would be roars of laughter. One fast thinker after another would think “Hey. I buy some gold at $300/oz, trade for oil to receive 1 Mln Bbl, then sell the 1 Mln Bbl for US$ 10 Mln. Net profit is $10,000,000-$300,000=$9,700,000. Easy money.”
Everyone at once turns to the gold market to buy, which promptly shuts down. Now no one is laughing. Because everyone realizes that gold is now worth at least $10,000 per ounce and no one is prepared for that revaluation. Whoever has gold now has 66.67 times the purchasing power in that stockpile. What appeared to be a stupid offer has now become a complete revaluation of all gold stockpiles vs all currencies.
Who has the gold?
Is this plausible??? How is it possible by making one little change in oil dealings could this ever happen? It is simply the very intelligent use of the scarcity of gold and the necessity of oil. It is the desire of one party, who is big enough to swamp the gold market, to make it the preferred vehicle for buying oil. In fact if not one ounce of gold is ever transacted for oil, but the offer is continued intact, then gold will be revalued simply by the possibility of trading. Those who are in a bad way in their currency situation can always get oil with their gold.
What would the impact of this revaluation of gold and currencies do? It would instantly shift economic and financial power into the hands of those who own large amounts of gold: CB’s, Saudi’s, Roths et al. It would mean that gold/oil would be THE CENTRAL POINTS OF ECONOMIC REFERENCE. It would mean that currencies would be devalued by a factor of 1000 in relationship to the new standard of gold (as a proxy for oil wealth). It would upset an awful lot of people. There would be no TARGET to shoot at or take over, however, because all other oil producers would immediately jump on this band wagon. Its a simple matter of what an interested party is willing to receive for their goods. The world would be turned upside down geopolitically, wouldn’t it. Literally “..the ‘have-not’s of the world will become the ‘have’s..”
Yes GB. I remember Another
His work was being published at Gold Eagle every week back befor the turn of the century. He was a Cult “Hero”
Then apparently he dissapeared or died and there came “Friend of Another” who continued the discussion for quite some time
I confess I never Understood much of what he was saying but clearly he was connected and had quite a following
Thanks for bringing this back
Such a move by House of Saud would lead to immediate death of House of Saud. If my premise is incorrect than all Sovereigns would nationalize all bullion and producers…
If the House of Saud made such a move 24 years ago, your premise would likely have been correct. That’s why it says, “Just change… Saudi to Russia:”
Since there’s an obvious attempt to kill the ‘House of Putin’, is the current situation a trap or an opportunity for Putin/Russia? Is this set-up contrived to further crush at least Western Europe? Who benefits most from tempting oil producers with such a scenario?
You may be correct that nationalization of bullion and producers is coming, if what ANOTHER speculated comes to pass. Stay tuned! Interesting times for sure…
Putin is a dead man walking. He is going to take all of Ukraine. It took Hitler 38 days to take Poland. He is offering oil at a substantial discount with no takers so far. Our supply chain took 30-40 years to achieve the just in time perfection before they used Covid to smash it. Now the Russian smash. A death blow? Global depression? Super decentralization where everything is made close to you? All of our lives we have heard the crazies saying the end is near! How about the collapse of everything? I mostly trade agriculture now. Risk free trade…
Do you ever wonder if there will be a last trading day?
GB. I have been to 73 countries. What’s your number?
100+ individual countries, many of them multiple times. This includes the USSR a couple of times (1989 & 1990), then Russia a few times, and also Ukraine. You might appreciate these simple reports from my Ukraine visit in 2015:
https://balloonbill.smugmug.com/Other/Ukraine-November-2015/
https://balloonbill.smugmug.com/Other/Chernobyl-November-16-2015/
Country count
Watched the first video. The second link no longer works. I remember going to Machu Picchu when there were only three other families there. Fort San Lorenzo when no one was there. Sitting on top of one of the Stonehenge stones watching the sun go down.
Which link did not work for you?
The video in the Chernobyl link.
I am cc for nxt few. ttyl
I found a working link to the same Chernobyl documentary; it’s well worth watching, although it will not improve your view of humans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-1uKz3W6Ic
I can’t believe you were dumb enough to walk in Afghanistan!! Balls of steel. Me coward.
Dumb maybe, but no balls of steel or trying to be a hero for me. I’ll admit to having done much dumber -and much much more dangerous- things than wandering around Afghanistan’s Wakhan Corridor.
I just do my best (no resistance) to allow myself to be drawn forward into whatever life has in store especially for me. I am a fully engaged and willing participant, ‘managing’ risk by paying attention. As you know, timing is everything, and I don’t mean contrived timing but instead what can only be felt. I love the process of life!