House Defies Trump By Advancing $8BN New Ukraine Aid Package
Late Wednesday saw President Trump receive a rare and much belated rebuke from the House of Representatives as it voted to pass a war powers resolution related to Iran. The passed resolution directs the withdrawal of US troops from armed hostilities with Iran, in a closely divided 215–208 vote, aided by four Republicans.
But this wasn’t the only Trump-defying vote that took place Wednesday, as The Hill reports: “Six Republicans joined Democrats on Wednesday to push through a vote on military aid for Ukraine, a blow to President Trump’s handling of Russia’s war against the country and his withdrawal of U.S. support for Kyiv.”
The House voted 218-204 in a procedural motion that clears the way for a vote on the Ukraine Support Act, authored by Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-N.Y.), the ranking member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee,” the report adds. So interestingly, and in a bit of a blaring contradiction, the House has shown itself to be dovish on the Iran war but hawkish on Russia-Ukraine.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/house-defies-trump-advancing-8bn-new-ukraine-aid-package
SO WHAT ? IT’S DOA IN EVERY WAY
Late Wednesday saw President Trump receive a rare and much belated rebuke from the House of Representatives as it voted to pass a war powers resolution related to Iran. The passed resolution directs the withdrawal of US troops from armed hostilities with Iran, in a closely divided 215–208 vote, aided by four Republicans. IF THIS PASSES THE HOUSE DOES IT NEED 60 VOTES TO PASS THE SENATE AND HOW LIKELY IS THAT AND THEN CAN TRUMP VETO ?
Copilot said:
Copilot
Here’s a clear, factual breakdown of how this works ?
1) Does it need 60 votes in the Senate?
Short answer: usually, yes — effectively.
In the U.S. Senate, most legislation can pass with a simple majority (51 votes).
lawshun
BUT there’s the filibuster, which lets a minority block a vote unless debate is ended.
Ending debate (called cloture) typically requires 60 votes.
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? So in practice:
If the minority filibusters (which is common on big issues like war powers),
You need ~60 votes to move forward, even if final passage only requires 51.
?? Exception:
Some War Powers measures have expedited procedures, but in reality the Senate often still structures votes in ways where normal politics (including filibusters) apply.
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2) How likely is it to pass the Senate?
Based on what’s already happened:
A similar Senate effort recently failed 47–50 (well short of 60).
legis1
Another procedural vote earlier only got around 50 votes with a few Republicans crossing over.
politifact
? That tells you:
Support is nowhere near 60 votes
Even reaching a simple majority is shaky
The Senate is still largely divided along party lines
? Bottom line:
Very unlikely to pass the Senate, especially at the 60?vote threshold.
3) Can Trump veto it?
This depends on the type of resolution, which is crucial:
Case A — Concurrent resolution (what the House likely passed)
Many reports say this is a concurrent resolution
That means:
It does NOT go to the president
It cannot be vetoed
But it is also largely symbolic (not legally binding)
abcnews
? So:
No veto…
But also no direct legal force
Case B — If Congress passed a binding law (joint resolution)
Then yes:
Trump could veto it
To override that veto:
You’d need 2/3 of both chambers (67 Senate, 290 House)
lawshun
? Given current vote counts:
A veto override would be extremely unlikely.
4) Big picture
The House vote (215–208) is politically significant but mostly symbolic right now
reuters
The Senate is the real bottleneck:
Needs ~60 votes in practice
Currently far short
Even if Congress passed a binding version:
Trump could veto
And Congress likely can’t override
? Simple summary:
Senate threshold: effectively ~60 votes (because of filibuster)
Chances of passage: low
Veto?
No if it’s a concurrent resolution (symbolic)
Yes if it becomes binding law — and override is very unlikely