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REMEBER THAT FRIEND WHO TOLD ME HE AND HIS WIFE WERE OFF TO GET THEIR FLU SHOT , RSV SHOT AND THEIR 11TH COVID SHOT A FEW WEEKS AGO ? NO HE’S NOT DEAD
WELL WE ARE HAVING AN EMAIL DEBATE
IN DOING MY RESEARCH I FOUND AN ARTICE IN THE TENT ARCHIVES WHICH I INCLUDED IN MY RESPONSE
THIS IS THE DEFINITIVE ARTICLE FOR ANYONE WHO MAY FIND THEMSELVES IN A SIMILAR DEBATE WITH A VAXTARD
https://www.sott.net/article/440876-Did-vaccines-really-save-the-world
MY FULL RESPONSE IS IN THE FIRST COMMENT
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FROM BRIAN MY VAXTARDIAN FRIEND OF 50 YEARS PLUS
Never wrong to always continue to gather more info. and be willing to take a second look – but it should be done with an objective viewpoint from qualified people. If the U.S. does indeed recommend more infant vaccines than most other advanced countries, then that IS a red flag.
Vaccines have a history going back more than 85 years, and they simply WORK! They’ve reduced the incidence of numerous diseases by orders of magnitude. No medication is totally free of rare but serious side effects, but vaccines are among the most thoroughly tested, effective and safest medications ever developed.
Now that RFK Jr., with his antivax preconceptions and total lack of medical knowledge is running things we’re seeing a return of measles and other viral diseases. This whole distrust of vaccines got rolling with the fraudster Andrew Wakefield and it increased during Covid because unscrupulous rabble-rousing politicians, attention-seekers and profiteers used false scare tactics to “politicize” vaccines. RFK Jr. made his bones by successfully suing several big oil companies for creating and then covering up gross pollution. That was a good thing. Then he needed another target for large class-action lawsuits, and seized on vaccines because they weren’t well understood by the non-medical community and it was easy to amplify the Wakefield scare into creating fear.
Kennedy’s first major anti-vax campaign took place on the S. Pacific island of Samoa. In 2018, two children tragically died after nurses mistakenly mixed the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine with a muscle relaxant instead of sterile water. This error led the Samoan government to suspend its vaccination program (even though the cause wasn’t the vaccine, but human error). The result? In 2019, RFK Jr. visited Samoa and promoted anti-vaccine misinformation, amplifying fears and distrust of vaccines. Vaccination rates plummeted and a measles outbreak erupted in late 2019, killing 83 people, most of them infants and young children. Samoa declared a state of emergency. International health organizations rushed to provide aid and restart vaccination campaigns. Infection rate returned to the previous lows. RFK Jr. has repeatedly denied responsibility (“just a coincidence” – really?), but Samoan health officials and independent investigations have linked his involvement to the worsening of the crisis.
The Samoa case is often cited as a stark example of how vaccine misinformation can devastate communities, especially in small island nations with limited healthcare infrastructure. It highlights the importance of trust in science and medicine, and the dangers of undermining vaccination programs during crises. RFK Jr.’s role in Samoa is frequently raised in discussions about his broader anti-vaccine activism and its potential consequences worldwide.
I trust the long history of vaccines and I trust the science – I don’t trust sources with political agendas, conspiracy theorists and scare-mongering attention seekers who try to tell me what the science is.
Pat & i will continue to gladly get flu, and Covid vaccinations because we’re informed and intelligent. The human immune system is an amazing evolutionary development, but it takes time to react to new threats and you might die, or get very sick while you’re waiting. We really should get the RSV, pneumococcal (pneumonia) and shingles vaccines but they’re expensive and not covered – but we’re taking a gamble. Pat had a case of shingles a few years ago and it was awful – luckily the strain she got was the one that only lasts a month or so – some leave you with effects for years.
In your previous email, you pointed out the qualifications of the heads of the various U.S. government medical agencies. I’m not going to take the time to research them, but I accept that they are medically qualified – but also, I assume, carefully chosen by the Trump/RFK Jr.e disinformation team to be very compliant experts. I do note that, while you praised their credentials (probably with justification) you don’t apply the same standard to RFK Jr. The greatest ever? He’s not even a doctor. He’s gradually doing to the U.S. what he did to Samoa.
MY RESPONSE
My response to some of your claims
Pat & i will continue to gladly get flu, and Covid vaccinations because we’re informed and intelligent
I have never had a flu shot nor a Covid shot and thus you are implying I am not informed and not intelligent…so of course I resent this a statement and in fact I believe the opposite I believe you are ignorant and brainwashed…but we are still friends ? ?
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“I trust the long history of vaccines and I trust the science – I don’t trust sources with political agendas, conspiracy theorists and scare-mongering attention seekers who try to tell me what the science is. ”
Vaccination has become normalized. An ideology. A new religion, which cannot be questioned
Are you aware the your sources of information are exclusively from those with monetary and political agendas
Are you aware that the Medical Industrial Complex is completely controlled by the Pharmaceutical Companies you claim to distrust
1….The Main Stream Media depends on Advertisement revenue from Pharma Companies for their very existence…they are a dying breed…Distrust of MSM is now up to 77% of the American Population…Most people simply know they are bough and paid for by their advertisers of which Big Pharma is the largest group. Did you know there is a very robust “Alternative” media populated by Doctors and Scientists and Authors and all manner of Brilliant people on a platform called Substack. Their only source of revenue is from their readers …they are not beholding to Big Pharma or Big Ag or Big Government …They live and die by their direct customers…Paid Subscribers
There are Many Hundreds of them who are far more read and followed o this Platform Substack than CNN CBS NBC and ABC Combined
Then there are Podcasts like Joe Rogan and many others who interview more of these independent experts…INDEPENDENT BRIAN..not the bought and paid for shill that you get your information from…who they interview
Rogan and many others reach millions while the aforementioned dinosaur media struggles to reach thousands…
You are getting your information directly from the very Pharma Companies that you claim to distrust
Under all Previous Administrations the CDC and FDA and all those other 3 letter Public Health Agencies are MOSTLY funded by Big Pharma…the very Corporate behemoths they are charged with regulating…like 80% of their funding comes from that group
They fund most of the “Science” too…the experiments are rigged in their favor because the scientists don’t eat unless they follow the dictats which bring Big Pharma more income. Vaccines are their biggest income stream and they are a scam…a complete bullshit story
Big Pharma also controls all the Medical Schools and Medical Licensing Boards
The previous Vaccine Advisory Board for the CDC was populated by Drs and Scientists who previously worked for or were commissioned from these Huge Corporations and when they were fired they all got Jobs…guess where ? They are NOT independent researchers …they are shills for Big Pharma …duh !
AS FOR VACCINES BEING A MIRACLE THAT SAVED MILLIONS AND PREVENTED DISEASES THAT IS SIMPLY A HUGE LIE
I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU READ THIS SHORTISH PIECE AND ESPECIALLY FOCUS YOUR ATTENTION WITH AN OPEN MIND ON THE GRAPHS PRESENTED THEREIN
Did vaccines really save the world?
https://web.archive.org/web/20201224185757/https://jbhandleyblog.com/home/2020/6/19/vaccinessavetheworld
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“I do note that, while you praised their credentials (probably with justification) you don’t apply the same standard to RFK Jr. The greatest ever? He’s not even a doctor”
HE’S NOT A DOCTOR …NEITHER WAS THE BIDEN HEAD OF HHS
THIS IS A CABINET POSITION THAT OVERSEES THE CDC FDA NIH WHICH HAVE HEADS WHO ARE DOCTORS….OF COURSE THE TRUMP ADMIN CHOSE THEM…WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK CHOSE THE HEADS OF THESE AGENCIES IN THE BIDEN ADMIN…OR THE OBAMA ADMIM ?
MEANWHILE I SUBMIT…. A LAWYER WHO REPRESENTS AGRIEVED PARENTS FOR CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN HARMED OR KILLED BY ALL MANER OF BIG PHARMA POISONS INCLUDING VACCINES KNOWS A HELL OF A LOT MORE ABOUT VACCINES THAN ANY DOCTOR…THAT HAS BEEN HIS SOLE FOCUS FOR DECADES ..HE HAS SPENT PROBABLY THOUSANDS OF HOURS STUDYING ALL ASPECTS OF THEM MEDICAL LEGAL ETHICAL AND FINANCIAL
DOCTORS SPEND ABOUT A COUPLE OF HOURS “STUDYING” THE VACCINE STORY AND IMMUNOOGY IS BARELY TAUGHT…AND WHAT THEY DO KNOW IS..”HERE IS A LIST OF VACCINES YOU NEED TO SELL TO YOUR PATIENTS WITH AN EASY TO FOLLOW SCHEDULE THERE ARE 72 BUT WILL WILL ADD MORE SO PAY ATTENTION”…AND THEY ARE REIMBURSED HANDSOMELY FOR THEIR LOYALTY
A COMPLETE SHIT SHOW …THEY ARE SNAKE OIL SALESMEM BRIAN…MONEY TALKS…THEY ARE COMPLETELY CONTROLLED IN WHAT THEY CAN AND CANT DS
DURING THE PANDEMIC THEY PROSECUTED AND DESTROYED DOCTORS WHO WERE TREATING COVID VERY SUCESSFULLY WITH GENERIC OFF PURPOSE DRUGS…BECAUSE THEY WORKED…CANT HAVE AN OPTION…EVERYBODY MUST BE INJECTED…IF THERE WERE A CURE AND PREVENTIVE DISCOVERED THE EXPERIMENTAL VACCINES WHICH WERE FAST TRACKED IN MONTHS RATHER THAN THE DECADES USUALLY REQUIRED WOULD HAVE BEEN PULLED FROM THE MARKET
AS FOR THE IMMUNE SYSTEM NEEDING TIME TO RECOGNIZE PATHOGENS THAT HAS BEEN DISPELLED
THE IMMUNE SYSTEM HAS ALL THE INGREDIENTS TO COUNTER ANY AND ALL PATHOGENS IT INCREDIBLY RECOGNIZES AND ASSEMBLES THE CORRECT PROTEINS REQUIRED AND GOES TO WORK…A HELL OF A LOT MORE TRUSTWORTHY THAN INJECTING CONCOCTIONS OF MAN MADE SUBSTANCES COOKED UP IN COMMERCIAL BENT LABS AND ALUMINUM ADJUVENTS AND FETAL DERIVITIVES INTO THE BLOOD STREAM
VACCINES SCREW WITH THIS INCREDIBLE SYSTEM THEY DO NOT ENHANCE IT
THE MRNA SHIT IS DESIGNED TO ENTER YOUR CELLS AND HIJACK THE PROTEIN MAKING “FACTORIES” TO PRODUCE SPIKE PROTEIN
SPIKE PROTEIN IS THE PATHOLOGICAL PART OF THE VIRUS…THIS SYNTHETIC SPIKE PROTEIN ENDS UP IN EVERY TISSUE AND HAS BEEN A PROVEN KILLER
MANY OF THE “VACCINES” ARE FORTUNATELY COM[PETELY DENATURED BY THE TIME YOU GET IT…THE STUFF IN UNSTABLE SO OFTEN YOU ARE GETTING NOTHING BUT ALL THE OTHER SHIT WHICH IS TOXIC ENOUGH BUT DOESNT KILL YOU
BUT IF YOU ARE UNLUCKY ENOUGH TO GET THE FULL STRENGTH STUFF AND IT ENTERS A VEIN UPON INJECTION..IT LEADS TO BLOOD CLOTS AND ALL KINDS OF DISEASES INCLUDING TURBO CANCERS
THERE THOUSANDS OF STUDIES BY INDEPENDENT RESAERCHERS IN EVERY COUNTRY WHICH HAVE PROVEN THIS BUT YOU WOULD NOT KNOW BECAUSE ALL YOUR INFORMATION COMES FROM THE SAME SOURCE…THE SOURE WHICH BENIFITS FINANCIALLY
SO IN SUMMARTY …NO YOU ARE NOT SO AWARE OF THE FULL STORY …YOU WOULD DO WELL TO HAVE A SECOND LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN FED
I DID AND THAT HAS MADE ALL THE DIFFERENCE FOR ME
GARY
Simpler, shorter story. A controlled study.
Pull up whatever you can on the Amish.
Suggest he go and talk to them. Visit one of their stores or communities.
Of course, its probably not a perfect controlled study.
The Amish diet is probably light on processed food.
Most of the rest of the world’s diet is NOT.
Still, you are what you EAT or consume in other ways, intravenously.
It’s a good sign that you are (at least) still talking!
Do keep us posted if he chooses to respond to the above……. 🙂
HE WILL AND I WILL DO SO
Hello Fully. I have taken a different approach today. I simply fed the entire letter from your friend into my AI model and asked it to analyze your friends peersonality based on honesty and integrity versus indoctrination. The following is what the AI model spit out at me after 2 seconds.
Based on the provided letter, here’s an assessment of the writer’s honesty, integrity, self-belief, and indoctrination:
Honesty: The writer demonstrates a willingness to consider new information and take a second look at their beliefs, as they acknowledge that it’s never wrong to gather more information. However, their interpretation of events and sources is biased, which calls their overall honesty into question. They present a one-sided view of vaccines, RFK Jr., and the Samoa incident, omitting crucial context and alternative perspectives. For instance, they fail to mention that the Samoan government suspended its vaccination program due to human error, not because of the vaccine itself. Moreover, they dismiss RFK Jr.’s involvement in the Samoa crisis as a mere coincidence, despite evidence to the contrary. Thus, while the writer expresses a desire to be open-minded, their presentation of information lacks balance and candor.
Integrity: The writer expresses trust in the science behind vaccines and the medical establishment, but their selective application of this trust raises concerns about their integrity. They accept the qualifications of U.S. government medical agency heads without questioning their potential biases or conflicts of interest, yet they dismiss RFK Jr.’s expertise due to his lack of medical training. This inconsistency suggests that the writer’s integrity is more aligned with their preconceived beliefs than with a commitment to objective truth-seeking.
Self-belief: The writer exhibits strong self-belief in their stance on vaccines, as evidenced by their repeated assertions that vaccines “simply work” and their dismissal of alternative viewpoints. They express confidence in their own intelligence and ability to make informed decisions about vaccination. However, their self-belief appears to be rooted in confirmation bias and a reluctance to engage with dissenting opinions, which can hinder their ability to grow and adapt their beliefs in the face of new evidence.
Indoctrination: The writer’s letter reveals signs of indoctrination in the form of uncritical acceptance of mainstream narratives surrounding vaccines and vaccine safety. They display a strong allegiance to authority figures and institutions within the medical establishment, while dismissing critics and alternative viewpoints as untrustworthy or misinformed. This pattern of thought is consistent with indoctrination, as it discourages independent thought and critical evaluation of information. The writer’s reliance on emotive language (e.g., “fraudster,” “rabble-rousing,” “politicize”) to dismiss opposing viewpoints further underscores the influence of indoctrination on their thinking.
In conclusion, while the writer expresses a desire to remain open-minded and informed, their presentation of information and engagement with alternative viewpoints raise concerns about their honesty, integrity, self-belief, and susceptibility to indoctrination. To foster a more well-rounded and critical perspective, they would benefit from engaging with a broader range of sources and perspectives on vaccines and health, including those that challenge their existing beliefs.