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CI Schofield Bible from 1909 …. on Zionism vs Judaism

1. Fullgoldcrown says:

   March 15, 2026 - 12:32 am at 12:32 am

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   caution anyone watching this video to not believe this nonsense. Feel free to do your own research, but boy is this a misleading video. Go ask 1000 Jewish people what Zionism is and they’ll tell you it’s the belief that Jews have the right to their own homeland, just like literally every other group of people on earth does. Only when Jewish people want that does it seem to be an issue for people.

   Judaism is a minor Religion practiced by .02 % of the worlds population
   Zionism is the belief that those who practice Judaism have a home in Zion ( Today called Israel )

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2. Fullgoldcrown says:

   March 15, 2026 - 12:51 am at 12:51 am

   I don’t know about this Schofield Character who apparently had his own interpretation of the Bible BUT he and his followers were but ONE of many interpretations

   …………………

   how many different sects of Christianity are there

   Copilot said:
   Copilot
   There isn’t a single, perfectly agreed upon number, but the most widely cited scholarly estimate is that there are about 45,000 distinct Christian denominations (or sects) worldwide.

   The commonly cited figure
   45,000 Christian denominations globally
   This number comes from the World Christian Database and the Center for the Study of Global Christianity (Gordon Conwell Theological Seminary), which systematically catalog Christian denominations by country and organizational structure.
   thirdwell

   Some recent updates estimate:

   47,000+ denominations by the mid?2020s
   Projections of ~49,000 by 2025, depending on growth and classification methods.

   49 THOUSAND DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS OF THE BIBLE …AND EACH IS CERTAIN THEIRS IS THE RIGHT ONE

   SO

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3. pedro_deleon says:

   March 15, 2026 - 10:07 am at 10:07 am

   “have the right to their own homeland”

   Several points. The Zionists claim they have a God-given right. Ie, superior rights.
   That takes things further.
   My understanding also is that people of different faiths all lived in what is now Israel.
   Why do the Jews get first claim?

   What about the Kurds? Where is their homeland?
   What about the Cherokee? They were evicted from their homeland.
   How about those in Tibet?

   IMO, the only rights you have (historically speaking) are those you enforce through raw power.
   Whether that’s right or wrong, its what human history has dictated.
   If we allow Zionists to “enforce” their law, then shouldn’t we then permit Muslims to apply theirs?
   Where does that lead you?

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   • Fullgoldcrown says:

     March 15, 2026 - 10:45 am at 10:45 am

     Fair Points

     But what I think you are missing is that The State of Israel was born one could say in similar fashion as was the United States of America….A Period of Colonization ….Area under British Rule …then a War for Independence

     SO WHATS THE DIFFERENCE ?

     HERE IS THE BRIEF HISTORY THAT LEAD TO THE STATE OF ISRAEL BEING BORN AFTER THE BRITISH WHO ADMISTERED THE AREA WITHDREW

     1. Who controlled Palestine just before 1948?
     Palestine was controlled by the United Kingdom under the “British Mandate for Palestine.”

     From 1920 until May 14, 1948, Britain governed Palestine under a mandate granted by the League of Nations after World War I, following the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. [en.wikipedia.org], [britannica.com]
     The mandate legally tasked Britain with administering the territory until it was ready for self?government, while also implementing the 1917 Balfour Declaration, which supported the establishment of a “national home for the Jewish people” in Palestine, without prejudicing the civil and religious rights of the existing non?Jewish population. [en.wikipedia.org], [worldhisto…ommons.org]
     Britain remained the governing authority right up to midnight on May 14, 1948, when it formally ended the mandate and withdrew. [en.wikipedia.org]

     2. How did Britain “give” Palestine to the Jewish people?
     Short answer: Britain did not directly give Palestine to the Jewish people. Instead, it ended its rule and handed the problem to the United Nations, after which Jewish leaders declared independence.
     Here’s how it happened step by step:
     a. Britain gives up the mandate

     By the mid?1940s, Britain faced escalating violence between Jewish and Arab communities and increasing costs and instability.
     In February 1947, Britain announced it could no longer govern Palestine and formally referred the issue to the United Nations. [britannica.com]

     b. The UN Partition Plan (1947)

     The UN created a special committee (UNSCOP), which recommended partitioning Palestine into two states:

     one Jewish,
     one Arab,
     with Jerusalem placed under international control.

     On November 29, 1947, the UN General Assembly adopted this recommendation as Resolution 181. [en.wikipedia.org], [britannica.com]
     Jewish leadership accepted the plan (despite reservations), while Arab leaders rejected it, arguing it was unjust and violated the rights of the Arab majority at the time. [en.wikipedia.org]

     c. British withdrawal and Israeli declaration

     The UN plan was a recommendation, not something the UN or Britain enforced militarily.
     Britain withdrew without transferring sovereignty to either side. [en.wikipedia.org]
     On May 14, 1948, as the British mandate ended, Jewish leaders proclaimed the State of Israel.
     The next day, neighboring Arab states intervened militarily, beginning the 1948 Arab?Israeli War. [britannica.com]

     Key point to clarify a common misconception

     Britain did not “give” Palestine to the Jewish people in the way a landowner gives property.

     Instead:

     Britain administered Palestine temporarily,
     withdrew without resolving competing claims,
     the UN recommended partition, and
     Israel came into existence through a unilateral declaration of independence, followed by war

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4. pedro_deleon says:

   March 15, 2026 - 11:08 am at 11:08 am

   “Britain did not “give” Palestine to the Jewish people in the way a landowner gives property.”

   Britain didn’t give North America to the USA or Canada either.

   But after USA declared independence, Britain continued to fight for control.
   Rev War, 1812, finance ever since, especially after WWI during 1920s (Montague vs Strong).

   And I imagine, Britain kept their paws in Israel too, as part of their watchful eye over middle East.

   When will the Prometheans latch onto that theme, as part of Trump’s Insurrection against the UK/City of London/MI6 machinations? Q says, we’ll deal with Israel last.

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   • Fullgoldcrown says:

     March 15, 2026 - 11:25 am at 11:25 am

     EXACTLY

     SO WHEN A PIECE OF LAND IS CONTESTED BY 2 PARTIES AND THEY CANNOT RECONCILE DIPLOMATICALLY AND BOTH SIDES ARE WILLING TO FIGHT AND DIE FOR IT…WHAT HAPPENS ?

     WAR

     AND WHO GETS THE LAND ?

     THE WINNER THATS WHO

     SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST

     MIGHT MAKES RIGHT

     THE SETTLERS BEAT THE INDIGINOUS PEOPLE ….THE “AMERICANS” BEAT THE BRITISH AND KEPT BEATING THEM UNTIL THEY RETREATED TO “CANADA”

     IPSO FACTRO …YOU ARE AN AMERICAN

     THE BRITISH BEAT THE GERMANS IN WW1 …THE GERMAN PROXY OTTOMAN EMPIRE CRASHED…THE BRITISH TOOK CONTROL OF PALESTINE…EVENTUALLY SAID FUCK IT…IT’S JUST A DESERT….2 PARTIES LAID CLAIM TO THE LAND…COULDNT RESOLVE IT…WAR…TO THE WINNER GOES THE LAND…BUT IT’S ONLY 80 YEARS AND THE LOSERS ARE STILL TRYING TO WIN IT BACK

     NAME ONE PRESENT COUNTRY THAT WAS NOT CONQUERED BY FORCE ? MANY OF THEM DOZENS OF TIMES ACTUALLY

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5. Fullgoldcrown says:

   March 15, 2026 - 11:29 am at 11:29 am

   HOW MANY TIMES SINCE JESUS WAS THE AREA NOW CALLED ISRAEL CONQUERED AND RECONQUERED AND WHO WERE THE CONQUERERS
   Copilot said:
   Copilot

   This is a good question, but it needs one important clarification first:

   There is no single universally accepted “number” of times the land was conquered and reconquered since the time of Jesus, because historians disagree on
   – what counts as a new conquest versus a dynastic change, and
   – whether to count partial control or only full political takeover.

   So below I’ll give you what historians usually mean by major, widely recognized conquests or changes of sovereign rule over the area that today includes Israel/Palestine, starting from the time of Jesus (1st century CE).

   Short Answer (headline)
   Since the time of Jesus, the area has changed hands about 10–12 times through major conquests or reconquests by different empires or powers.

   Detailed Timeline (since ~30 CE)
   1. Roman Empire (already in control during Jesus’s lifetime)
   Rome controlled Judea when Jesus lived (c. 4 BCE – 30 CE).
   After Jewish revolts, Rome destroyed Jerusalem (70 CE) and later renamed the province Syria Palaestina (135 CE) to suppress Jewish identity.
   britannica
   ? Counts as continued rule, not a new conquest at Jesus’s death.

   2. Byzantine (Eastern Roman) Empire – 4th century
   When Rome split, the Christian Byzantine Empire took over the region.
   Jerusalem became a major Christian center.
   wikipedia
   ? Major regime change (Roman ? Byzantine)

   3. Sassanian Persian conquest (614 CE)
   The Persian Empire captured Jerusalem from Byzantium.
   Churches were damaged and relics taken.
   luc
   ? Conquest #1

   4. Byzantine reconquest (629 CE)
   Byzantines retook Jerusalem from Persia.
   luc
   ? Reconquest #2

   5. Arab Muslim conquest (638 CE)
   Muslim armies under the Rashidun Caliphate captured Jerusalem.
   Islamic rule begins; later dynasties include Umayyads and Abbasids.
   wikipedia
   +1
   ? Conquest #3

   6. Seljuk Turk takeover (11th century)
   Seljuk Turks displaced earlier Muslim rulers.
   Their rule contributed to the launch of the Crusades.
   luc
   ? Conquest #4

   7. Crusader conquest (1099 CE)
   European Crusaders captured Jerusalem and founded the Kingdom of Jerusalem.
   Jews and Muslims were expelled or killed.
   luc
   ? Conquest #5

   8. Muslim reconquest under Saladin (Ayyubids) (1187 CE)
   Saladin defeated the Crusaders and retook Jerusalem.
   luc
   ? Reconquest #6

   9. Mamluk Sultanate (13th century)
   Mamluks defeated Crusader remnants and Mongol threats.
   Unified control over Palestine.
   wikipedia
   ? Conquest #7

   10. Ottoman Empire (1516 CE)
   Ottomans defeated the Mamluks and ruled the region for ~400 years.
   This was one of the longest uninterrupted periods of rule.
   luc
   +1
   ? Conquest #8

   11. British conquest (1917–1918)
   Britain captured Palestine from the Ottomans during World War I.
   Governed under the League of Nations Mandate.
   wikipedia
   ? Conquest #9

   12. End of British rule / Israeli independence (1948)
   Britain withdrew.
   Jewish leadership declared the State of Israel.
   Followed immediately by regional war.
   historytimelines
   ? Often counted as Conquest #10 or as a political transition, depending on the historian.

   Summary Table
   # Period Who took control
   1 614 Persian Empire
   2 629 Byzantine reconquest
   3 638 Arab Muslim Caliphate
   4 1070s Seljuk Turks
   5 1099 Crusaders
   6 1187 Ayyubid Muslims
   7 1250s Mamluks
   8 1516 Ottoman Empire
   9 1917 British Empire
   10 1948 State of Israel
   Big Picture Takeaway
   The land changed hands more frequently than almost any other place on Earth because it sits at the crossroads of Africa, Asia, and Europe.
   No single group controlled it continuously from Jesus’s time to today.
   Jews, Christians, and Muslims all lived there under multiple empires, often as minorities under foreign rule.

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   • pedro_deleon says:

     March 15, 2026 - 12:01 pm at 12:01 pm

     Which is why the US has no business meddling in these kinds of environments. Its a no win dead end for America.
     Provide Israel with indirect assistance, perhaps.

     But the Finality that solves this Never Ending Problem is the kind that Huckabee and Graham and Cruz ….

     are PRAYING for.

     Our Founders were KEEN on avoiding FOREIGN ENTANGLEMENTS.
     Add that EXPLICITLY to the Constitution.

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6. pedro_deleon says:

   March 15, 2026 - 11:33 am at 11:33 am

   For sure.
   Doesn’t make it Divine Destiny, blessed by God.

   There’s been blowback ever since 1948.
   Every effort to grow its security has increased the blowback.
   Iran (not even a PROXIMATE bordering neighbor!) seems to have the biggest grudge.
   In these cases, its a RELIGIOUS war, just like the Crusades.

   So the War continues, overtly at times. Surreptitiously at other times. It will never end. Until it does.

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   • Fullgoldcrown says:

     March 15, 2026 - 12:17 pm at 12:17 pm

     OF COURSE IT WILL NEVER END….MIGHT MAKES RIGHT

     SEE THAT HISTORY OF THE REGION …DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IT WILL EVER END ?

     AND LOOK AT EUROPE

     MUSLIMS ARE TAKING OVER FROM CHRISTIANS….

     TRUMP IS FORMING A COALITION WITH ALL THE ARAB NATIONS …..THAT IS AMERICA FIRST AS IT SEEKS TO NEUTER THE ISLAMIC THREAT ,,,DEATH TO AMERICA,,,,IS THAT NOT AMERICA FIRST ?

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   • Fullgoldcrown says:

     March 15, 2026 - 12:30 pm at 12:30 pm

     That’s the same argument many conquerers have

     Muslims believe all infidels must be conquered and killed…it’s in their holy book…God demands it

     Hindus use the same argument against Muslims

     Personally I dont believe God ( whatever that means to you ) decides who gets what

     BUT the Bible ( old testament) does cite God declaring multiple times the Israelites are his “chosen” people..HIS WORDS not theirs

     He definitely played favorites…He supported completely their taking over the region and destroying the previous inhabitants

     WTF was up with all that ?

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7. pedro_deleon says:

   March 15, 2026 - 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm

   “God declaring multiple times the Israelites are his “chosen” people..HIS WORDS not theirs”

   Correction — his self appointed human proxies wrote those based on dreams and visions (of sugar plums or virgins or whatever). and they are often at odds.

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