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can you spell “cyclicals”?
Furious rotation out of chip stonks and into insurance, drugs, and Coca-Cola
Clueless – Thu, Jul 2, 2026 – 06:41 PM (Views: 17)
Double Whammy KLAC and Micron ETFs lost 40% in just 3 days
Clueless – Thu, Jul 2, 2026 – 06:42 PM (Views: 11)
so rates down weakness has its dark side too
QUESTION FOR THE PEANUT GALLERY — HOW LOW DO YOU REALLY WANT RATES TO GO?
KD does his thing on the #s
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=255642
IS THE SCALE ON THIS CHART PURPOSELY OBSCURE >?
CANT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY UNLESS WE SEE THE SCALE
CAN YOU REPRODUCE IT SO WE CAN SEE THE NUMBERS ?
HERE IS A GOOD INTERACTIVE CHART FROM THE LABOR DEPARTMENT TO SHOW THE LABOR PARTICIPATION RATE FOR ALL AGE GROUPS AND SEXES ( OF WHICH THERE ARE 2)…NOTE THIS IS ALSO CALLED THE “NUMBER IN THE WORKFORCE WHO DO NOT WANT A JOB ”
https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-labor-force-participation-rate.htm
INTERESTING THEY SHOW NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE WORKFORCE FROM AGE 20 AND OLDERBUT THERE IS NOT CUT OFF AGE
COULD THE DROP IN PEOPLE INTERESTED IN WORK BE BECAUSE THE BOOMERS ARE AGING RAPIDLY AND THEY ARE STILL BEING COUNTED AS BEING IN THE WORK FORCE ?
How participation has changed over time
The FRED data series shows that U.S. labor force participation rose for several decades, reached its highest levels around the late 1990s and early 2000s, and then generally trended lower before stabilizing in recent years. The current rate remains below its historical peak. [fred.stlouisfed.org]
A simplified timeline:
Trend
1950s–1960sGradual increase
1970s–1990sStrong
1990s–early 2000sNear peak levels
2000s–2010sDecline2020
Pandemic Sharp disruption
Recent years Partial recovery and stabilization
Impact of demographics
Demographics explain a substantial portion of long-run participation trends.
Aging population
As the baby-boom generation moved into retirement ages:
More people shifted out of the workforce.
The national participation rate experienced downward pressure.
Rising female participation
From the 1960s through the 1990s:
More women entered the labor force.
This significantly boosted overall participation and helped offset aging effects.
Longer life expectancy
Many older individuals now work later in life than previous generations.
This partially offsets retirement-related declines.
Lower participation among youth
More young people spend longer in education.
As a result, participation among teenagers and younger adults tends to be lower than in earlier decades.
Immigration
Immigration can increase labor force growth because many immigrants arrive during prime working years.
The effect depends on the age and skill composition of immigrant populations.
Why economists watch this measure
The labor force participation rate helps governments, researchers, and financial markets assess the health of the labor market and the economy. However, the St. Louis Fed notes that long-run changes may reflect structural demographic shifts rather than changes in economic health alone. [fred.stlouisfed.org]
A useful way to think about it: participation = economic opportunity + willingness to work + demographic structure. Demographics often change slowly, while economic conditions can cause shorter-term fluctuations.
Does anyone have access to Shadow Stats- john williams…???
Sinclair respected him & his work.
I seem to recall that Shadow Stats folded a couple of years ago.