{"id":582909,"date":"2023-06-03T17:10:55","date_gmt":"2023-06-03T21:10:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/goldtadise.com\/?p=582909"},"modified":"2023-06-03T17:10:55","modified_gmt":"2023-06-03T21:10:55","slug":"debt-ceiling-rates-and-pms","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/goldtadise.com\/?p=582909","title":{"rendered":"Debt ceiling, rates and PMs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Gentlemen and ladies,<br \/>\nBeing the first Saturday of June 2023, I&#8217;d like to hear from the Tent what is the &#8220;vibe&#8221; for this month, which will also mark the end of 2Q 2023.<\/p>\n<p>With the debt ceiling now effectively raised, I&#8217;m trying to understand how the flooding of treasuries will impact very short term rates\/2 year rates\/10-30 year rates?<br \/>\nIf rates rise, will markets sell off hard?<br \/>\nHaving gone up north of 10% in the last 12 weeks, S&amp;P could just &#8220;correct&#8221; by 4-6% and yet remain &#8220;bullish&#8221; in the medium term?<br \/>\nFrom this point on I think it is more about ratios now, more than ever.<\/p>\n<p>Today gold to S&amp;P ratio is roughly under 0.46.<\/p>\n<p>My educated guesses:<br \/>\n(i) Whether rates rise or fall, PMs rise.<br \/>\n(ii) If rates rise fast, due to higher treasury issuance, PMs rise faster, S&amp;P could sell off, and the ratio rises, toward 0.48, or towards the magical 0.5 number. Many analysts are waiting for this confirmation.<br \/>\n(iii) No matter how much fiduciaries advise, to stop believing in TINA, I still see TINA is alive. NVDA, GOOG, AAPL all being at 52-wk highs is a simple proof.<\/p>\n<p><em>JPMorgan Chase &amp; Co. strategist Nikolaos Panigirtzoglou estimates a flood of Treasuries will compound the effect of QT on stocks and bonds, knocking almost 5% off their combined performance this year. Citigroup Inc. macro strategists offer a similar calculus, showing a median drop of 5.4% in the S&amp;P 500 over two months could follow a liquidity drawdown of such magnitude, and a 37 basis-point jolt for high-yield credit spreads.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/finance.yahoo.com\/news\/trillion-dollar-treasury-vacuum-coming-135944792.html<\/p>\n<p>GL<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Gentlemen and ladies, Being the first Saturday of June 2023, I&#8217;d like to hear from the Tent what is the &#8220;vibe&#8221; for this month, which will also mark the end of 2Q 2023. With the debt ceiling now effectively raised, &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/goldtadise.com\/?p=582909\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2882,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-582909","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/goldtadise.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/582909","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/goldtadise.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/goldtadise.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/goldtadise.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2882"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/goldtadise.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=582909"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/goldtadise.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/582909\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":582910,"href":"https:\/\/goldtadise.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/582909\/revisions\/582910"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/goldtadise.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=582909"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/goldtadise.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=582909"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/goldtadise.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=582909"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}