Survivability of VAP (Ventilator-associated pneumonia) with C19
Study published 4/27/2023 (in case it wasn’t posted at the Tent back in the day)
Remember when it was said (by those with no voice in the media) – if you have to get on a ventilator, the odds of survival go way down.
Study indicates lower odds of death if one could get off the ventilator early than if on it over 48 hours – ie. get OFF the vent if no improvement in 48 hrs.
Journal of Clinical Investigation
RESULTS. CarpeDiem revealed that the long ICU LOS among patients with COVID-19 was attributable to long stays in clinical states characterized primarily by respiratory failure. While VAP was not associated with mortality overall, the mortality rate was higher for patients with 1 episode of unsuccessfully treated VAP compared with those with successfully treated VAP (76.4% versus 17.6%, P < 0.001). For all patients, including those with COVID-19, CarpeDiem demonstrated that unresolving VAP was associated with a transitions to clinical states associated with higher mortality.
CONCLUSIONS. Unsuccessful treatment of VAP is associated with higher mortality. The relatively long LOS for patients with COVID-19 was primarily due to prolonged respiratory failure, placing them at higher risk of VAP.
Ventilator-associated pneumonia (VAP) occurs in patients that have been on mechanical ventilation for more than 48 hours. It presents with clinical signs that include purulent tracheal discharge, fevers, and respiratory distress in the presence of microorganisms.
Dig up the data on what hospitals were PAID to put a patient on a vent. 300k each?
It was about hospitals raking it in.
Vents were never a viable treatment. Just a death sentence, given what covid was about.
If its going around (the flu) shut it down in the nasal area before it gets further.