Matters of possible interest – vaccine reactions? – ways to dissent? – more
What I really hate in the current environment is suppression of calm discussion, mainly because so much is censored these days one way or another. In biology and medicine — much less politics — it is just about impossible to draw firm conclusions from observational studies. Always something is not controlled or blinded. You always forget something in designing studies. It’s not like a simple engineering experiment in a high school lab with perfect conditions. What you want is interesting back and forth discussion, where contrary arguments aren’t nasty trickery for sinister reasons, where there is censorship and distortion. Something that looks like a relatively common reaction to, say, a vaccine, when examined more carefully perhaps isn’t. Or maybe it is even worse than it looks. It is best when seen by different eyes from different directions, and discussed honestly.
The conservative side of me hates putting up material that might be inflammatory that hasn’t been discussed in relatively thorough and dispassionate manner. It might be incorrect, or if seen from a different side it might have a different interpretation. It would be best to put it up in a site where relatively pleasant and calm people from different sides would comment. Not going to happen. See below for an item or two I’ve come across.
There’s a fairly frequent poster at off-guardian.org, Penny, who has her own site,
https://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/2021/01/doctor-in-mexico-placed-in-intensive.html
where she discusses apparent bad reactions to the Pfizer thing.
Some people commenting today have noted the paucity in the UK press of reports of bad reactions in the UK.
A couple of days or so ago someone commenting at off-guardian wondered whether a D notice has been served on the UK press. Versus unnecessary?
A couple of days ago or so this Penny (who I think comments on O-G as Penelope — I think it’s the same person) wrote a comment some of you might find interesting):
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I don’t know who she is or whether I agree with her about many things or not. For all I know you get arrested for littering and imprisoned for thought crime for following her suggestions. Who know? I do think that there is too much attempted control of thought from above. I do like her idea of trying to encourage dialogue
I’m pretty sure it was she who also came up with the idea I mentioned a few weeks ago of wearing a white ribbon. If someone asks why you’re wearing it, you speak of exaggerated response and whatever else is on your mind.
I am a bit discouraged with myself that I bought white ribbon several weeks ago but haven’t worn it. I probably disagree with her and some of you over many things, but I think that tyranny is being imposed. Choices need to be made from the bottom up, freely. Not having lives disrupted in this irrational tyrannical fashion.
Somehow I managed to delete the comment that I meant to quote that she wrote recently. Here it is. I meant to put it between the .
Buy a pack of file cards & pin messages to you shirt of encouragement to others:
“Are you awake too? Do you know they are lying to you?”
“End the Lockdown.”
“The PCR Test is a Fraud. See this Link (whatever link you like)”
“There is no increased Mortality. See (Link)”
Carry a few flyers for people who engage you in conversation– and they do, with the least encouragement. I pin flyers to trees and lightposts. I pass out lists of links and sites.
After the merest pretext of conversation, “Is that good?” about some food item in his cart– I say, “You don’t believe this covid exaggeration, do you?” or “Do you have any idea what we should do about the lockdown?”
Engage people in conversation everywhere; don’t let the mask put you off. 90% of everybody have great doubts about what’s happening & will effusively thank you for a flyer that points them to medical fact.
Well put Karl and much respect for what you are doing . Excellent
Yesterday I went to the feed mill to get some supplies for my ass ( not toilet paper 🙂
The Proprietor Steve is a good guy but I have been somewhat discouraged that he only does business outside and then only one at a time is allowed in to pay and he has signs everywhere..Wash your hands , use sanitizer say 6 feet apart etc.
Last time I was there I tried to open up a bit and said I believe this is way overboard…all he said was “stay safe”
But yesterday he wanted to engage . He opened up and said he was just going along with the charade because thats what his customers seemed to want. They want to know he disinfects everything 4 times a day . He said that he does but it’s insane. It’s all insane .
I was really uplifted by his opening up.
Your “badge” idea is great.
People who are questioning the narrative are mostly afraid to express openly
My Step son who runs our restaurant has been getting an earful from me and he is now telling me…he notices many many in his industry are fed up and openly mocking the response and tacitly breaking rules more and more.
Yesterday he said he saw an article saying no excess deaths this year in Ontario
I told him thats a great observation…pass it on.
If each of us takes the small risk that we may offend some by opening this discussion we will find we are more often rewarded than not …
Thanks Karl
Unfortunately I don’t do it. I just write comments w/o editing them well.
It is Penny — Penelope — who is responsible for everything above. I haven’t gotten past buying the white ribbons.
All I do is forget to wear the mask, wear it inside out, somewhat sideways, etc. These are common tactics where I am. I will try to follow a little of Penelope’s advice though. It’s more practical than a lot of the huffing and puffing tough guy advice one reads some places.
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I suspect Penny is right about the 90% skepticism figure where I am but not in all places. The supermarket where I recently shopped for example dutifully plays its recordings about masks and distancing — even offers free masks at the service desk via recording. Everyone wears masks if not always correctly but many don’t follow the arrows, no one stays apart, few stand on the marks, and management stopped trying to enforce months ago. I think the management (regional chain) has decided it can just tell the governor that it tries its best to comply by playing the recordings and installing the arrows and plastic barriers, what else can it do if its customers don’t cooperate, so buzz off, o.k?
Search on image of mockingjay pin
Time for a variation on that? A bit more bold?
Or something that can be expressed in a variety of ways or places? tie, hat, arm band?
The Don’t Tread on Me flag is pretty recognizable as symbolizing all that.
Yellow felt star of david mask.