Loading ...Finally A leftie with some common sense
Lock Downs have become 100% Political
The Right Abhors them under any circumstances and the Left Adores them under any circumstances !
It never made any sense to me that the Left who supposedly champions the poor and disadvantaged in their societies
strongly support destroying these people in the name of ‘saving lives at all cost”
What a pile of Horse Manure.
Well here is a young Irish Lad with a bit of common sense. He tells it like a sane rational human even though he explains that he is very Left Wing in his politics.
He touches on all the points we have been making here .
” I too believe that the lockdown policy in response to Covid-19 has been an utter and complete disaster, and that most of the left have gotten this issue completely wrong. I will argue that the position of the lockdown sceptic really should be a more naturally left-wing cause to adopt, and those on the left should not be distracted by the reflexive partisan politics and virtue signalling that has taken over so much of the debate around lockdowns.”
It’s a longish read but worth it….pass it on to your Pro Lockdown Twisted Thinking Left Sided Family and Friends.
https://lockdownsceptics.org/the-left-wing-case-against-lockdowns/
George Orwell was a member of the Socialist Workers Party for many years. The Party eventually shunned him, and he left.
He wrote a book called The Road to Wigan Pier, which examined the life of British coal mining families at Wigan, in the UK, early last century.
What he discovered, and made it clear in the book, is that the Socialists did not really care about the plight of the working classes. Instead they just despised the wealthy rich, who provided the jobs; and spent all their energy trying to bring them down.
So today we see the same theme, where the Left (Democrats) have deserted the working classes, instead call them deplorables.
And they spend all their energy now trying to bring down the business owners….either through lockdowns or supporting looting.
Many terms have lost much usefulness. Many who consider themselves leftists consider the D party core to be if anything to be to the right of the R party, or at least as far right as the R party. It is somewhat common among the far left and even some liberals to read that Trump ran to the left of Clinton at least on some issues in 2016. The left (not the neoliberals and what have been mocked as “pwogessives”) see the supposedly liberal MSM as rightist. It is a bit of a terminological mess where people throw words at each other leading to confusion where nothing good happens.
About a decade ago PC Roberts commented that the elites have perfected the art of keeping in charge by keeping the left and the right at each other’s throats. Use of “left” and “right”, esp as invective, is one of the means.
I could cite far better sources of “leftist” writings that you “righists” might want to look into if only to reject from knowledge and sophistication. However I will merely offer you some current ones. One is off-guardian.org, where many of you will also see many opinions on Covid-19 that may be rather more like your own than mine, perhaps.
Another is a current worse-than-usual offering from a writer than Urie, usually better than this, at a website where most writers I think are usually pretty bad. I will offer you excerpts to exhibit first that he considers as “reactionary” what you may consider as “left”, and that perhaps if you were in the room with him and he and you were not to start out arguing over flash-point items you might have substantive discussions though not necessarily overall agreement. See below. I’ll try to post as a reply to myself.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/06/26/racism-and-the-neoliberal-consensus
This point is made because there has been no left candidate in the general election for President in living memory. .. By placing themselves as the gatekeepers of legitimate politics, the establishment parties define its contours and work to de-legitimize political programs that emerge from outside of it….
The near-heroic cynicism of the [Democrats’] elevation of Joe Biden ….
…. [T]he Democratic half of the reactionary core of capitalism finds rhetorical anti-racism to be the more useful device for furthering the interests of capital than other social wedges.
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As those who have experienced it know, violence is abhorrent. Had Messrs. Clinton and Biden criminalized violence, they would have been subject to arrest themselves for the almost daily bombing of Iraq that led up to George W. Bush’s wargasm in 2003. As advocates and facilitators of police violence against Americans, nationality held no sway over who they thought should be subjected to it. …
George Floyd was one of about 1,100 people killed by the police in the last twelve months. There is no way to know how the brutality of his murder compares to the others. More of those murdered were white than weren’t. Ending police violence and mass incarceration are worthy goals. But they (police violence and mass incarceration) fit into the wider social logic of capitalism. It isn’t incidental that the most capitalist nation in the world is also the most militaristic. If you know how to end racial animus, please, do so. I don’t. But I do have a few ideas for rethinking capitalism.
Well said Karl.
One of the biggest problems society continues to have is overly simplistic thinking.
Everything in nature is comprehensive and interrelated except human thinking so much of the time.
I believe this comes from the belief that we are apart or separate from nature.
Until we start to think collectively rather than divisively, we just perpetuate the myth that we are separate with separate interests.
But nature has it’s ways of bringing about balance, by constantly re-balancing.
The universe is in constant cycles of change and expansion. Nothing ever stays the same.
Most important, it doesn’t give a shit about what any of us think, it just keeps cycling into new and ever expanding modes.
What I continue to find so fascinating is how all the millions and millions of differing opinion are so meaningless. It’s like they all are trying in vain to stop the spinning of the earth.
And of course there are thousands of conspiracy theories because everyone is afraid of themselves, their own self interest and that of others. You can include me in that.
I’m constantly pushing against the river. It doesn’t mean we don’t speak out, but we have so little faith in nature and the natural cycles that we go through.
This whole virus thing is bringing our awareness of all of our differences to the forefront.
Nature doing it’s thing, we end up being forced to listen. We still will go on our merry way of having our differences, but we’ll never be the same again…..